Inadvertant horn

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by DRJ1960

... my partner calls a violation because a jumper tapped the ball twice (showed him the book at half time).

Hijack alert: Regarding odd jump ball plays, a reminder to some of our new officials. If, instead of being tapped (actually) three times, in which case the clock should have been started on the first tap, which was legal; one of the jumpers caught the ball before it was tapped, or touched the tossed ball before it reached its highest point, and the clock operator incorrectly started the clock, the clock should be reset to 8:00 to start the game.

5-9-2: If play is started or resumed by a jump, the clock shall be started when the tossed ball is legally touched.

6-3-7: Neither jumper shall:
a. Touch the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point.
c. Catch the jump ball.

Touching the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point, or catching the jump ball, are both illegal touches.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Hijack alert: Regarding odd jump ball plays, a reminder to some of our new officials. If, instead of being tapped (actually) three times, in which case the clock should have been started on the first tap, which was legal; one of the jumpers caught the ball before it was tapped, or touched the tossed ball before it reached its highest point, and the clock operator incorrectly started the clock, the clock should be reset to 8:00 to start the game.

5-9-2: If play is started or resumed by a jump, the clock shall be started when the tossed ball is legally touched.

6-3-7: Neither jumper shall:
a. Touch the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point.
c. Catch the jump ball.

Touching the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point, or catching the jump ball, are both illegal touches.

And when does a jump ball end?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Dad

And when does a jump ball end?

4-28-3: The jump ball begins when the ball leaves the referee’s hand(s) and
ends when the touched ball contacts a nonjumper, the floor, a basket or
backboard.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

4-28-3: The jump ball begins when the ball leaves the referee’s hand(s) and
ends when the touched ball contacts a nonjumper, the floor, a basket or
backboard.

I've seen this happen twice and was called a violation both times

[ODog]

Originally Posted by Dad

I've seen this happen twice and was called a violation both times

Who was it called on?!

[Dad]

Originally Posted by ODog

Who was it called on?!

Jumper who caught the ball after it hit the floor.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

6-3-7: Neither jumper shall:
a. Touch the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point.

Does this actually get called? I know when I played I did this all the time when I knew I was jumping against someone who could out jump be -- and only got called once. Clearly (from the comfort of my seat in the stands) happened in a boys varsity tournament championship game I was watching, and no call and no complaining. (Does seem less important now that there is only one JB per game.)

[Dad]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Does this actually get called? I know when I played I did this all the time when I knew I was jumping against someone who could out jump be -- and only got called once. Clearly (from the comfort of my seat in the stands) happened in a boys varsity tournament championship game I was watching, and no call and no complaining. (Does seem less important now that there is only one JB per game.)

I'm trying to remember the last time I saw it called -- I can't.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Dad

I'm trying to remember the last time I saw it called -- I can't.

I see it once a yr or so.

If the toss is way off to one side or stolen on the way up. Kill it.

I was taught - "Be alive at the tap! Don't sleep walk into a game and get off to a bad start!" Start the game right!

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Does this actually get called? I know when I played I did this all the time when I knew I was jumping against someone who could out jump be -- and only got called once. Clearly (from the comfort of my seat in the stands) happened in a boys varsity tournament championship game I was watching, and no call and no complaining. (Does seem less important now that there is only one JB per game.)

Called it once when a jumper practically took the ball off my fingertips as I released it. I had a very late whistle because....I needed time to get my whistle in my mouth. The very fact that the R doesn't keep a whistle in during a jump ball (for safety reasons) might be part of the reason this isn't called very often.

Generally speaking, if the ball is anywhere near the apex, I don't care. It's the occasional egregious "theft" that I'm concerned about.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Called it once when a jumper practically took the ball off my fingertips as I released it. I had a very late whistle because....I needed time to get my whistle in my mouth. The very fact that the R doesn't keep a whistle in during a jump ball (for safety reasons) might be part of the reason this isn't called very often.

Generally speaking, if the ball is anywhere near the apex, I don't care. It's the occasional egregious "theft" that I'm concerned about.

Do you work by yourself?

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Rich

Do you work by yourself?

LOL! Nope, it was a two person game and the U was focused on the non-jumpers.

But your point is fair.


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[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

The very fact that the R doesn't keep a whistle in during a jump ball (for safety reasons) might be part of the reason this isn't called very often.

If that is part of the reason, it speaks volumes about your U1s

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Called it once when a jumper practically took the ball off my fingertips as I released it. I had a very late whistle because....I needed time to get my whistle in my mouth. The very fact that the R doesn't keep a whistle in during a jump ball (for safety reasons) might be part of the reason this isn't called very often.

Generally speaking, if the ball is anywhere near the apex, I don't care. It's the occasional egregious "theft" that I'm concerned about.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If that is part of the reason, it speaks volumes about your U1s

Bob nailed it, I don't think the R should call this pretty much ever. Being directly below the ball does not give you the best angle here, actually gives you the worst.