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Old Fri Dec 04, 2015, 10:16pm
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Happened to me tonight.... THEN, on the "re-jump" (yes, I killed it and we started over), my partner calls a violation because a jumper tapped the ball twice (showed him the book at half time) ... it was a long night.
So you were out near my way this evening?
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2015, 10:33pm
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No... Prince George HS ...tournament

New Kent and Smithfield next week....
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 12:06am
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No... Prince George HS ...tournament

New Kent and Smithfield next week....
Oh, so no long trip this weekend. Did you guys keep Prince George?
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 10:23am
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... my partner calls a violation because a jumper tapped the ball twice (showed him the book at half time) ...
6-3-7-D: Neither jumper shall:
d. Touch the ball more than twice.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 10:27am
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Did you guys keep Prince George?
Do you have Prince Albert in a can?
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 10:52am
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Odd Jump Ball Plays ...
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... my partner calls a violation because a jumper tapped the ball twice (showed him the book at half time).
Hijack alert: Regarding odd jump ball plays, a reminder to some of our new officials. If, instead of being tapped (actually) three times, in which case the clock should have been started on the first tap, which was legal; one of the jumpers caught the ball before it was tapped, or touched the tossed ball before it reached its highest point, and the clock operator incorrectly started the clock, the clock should be reset to 8:00 to start the game.

5-9-2: If play is started or resumed by a jump, the clock shall be started when the tossed ball is legally touched.

6-3-7: Neither jumper shall:
a. Touch the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point.
c. Catch the jump ball.

Touching the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point, or catching the jump ball, are both illegal touches.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 11:01am
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Hijack alert: Regarding odd jump ball plays, a reminder to some of our new officials. If, instead of being tapped (actually) three times, in which case the clock should have been started on the first tap, which was legal; one of the jumpers caught the ball before it was tapped, or touched the tossed ball before it reached its highest point, and the clock operator incorrectly started the clock, the clock should be reset to 8:00 to start the game.

5-9-2: If play is started or resumed by a jump, the clock shall be started when the tossed ball is legally touched.

6-3-7: Neither jumper shall:
a. Touch the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point.
c. Catch the jump ball.

Touching the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point, or catching the jump ball, are both illegal touches.
And when does a jump ball end?
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 11:07am
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And when does a jump ball end?
4-28-3: The jump ball begins when the ball leaves the referee’s hand(s) and
ends when the touched ball contacts a nonjumper, the floor, a basket or
backboard.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 11:19am
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4-28-3: The jump ball begins when the ball leaves the referee’s hand(s) and
ends when the touched ball contacts a nonjumper, the floor, a basket or
backboard.
I've seen this happen twice and was called a violation both times
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 02:47pm
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Whatcha gonna do?[/QUOTE]

I always enjoy reading all the discussions and having a venue to share experiences. Be careful on expressing or conducting an action based on "opinion" that is not backed by rule. The coach may then ask you, "based on your opinion mr./ms. official are we playing with 10ft rims or 8ft. You know my players can't dunk and the other team can and I don't think thats fair".
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 02:52pm
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Whatcha gonna do?
I always enjoy reading all the discussions and having a venue to share experiences. Be careful on expressing or conducting an action based on "opinion" that is not backed by rule. The coach may then ask you, "based on your opinion mr./ms. official are we playing with 10ft rims or 8ft. You know my players can't dunk and the other team can and I don't think thats fair".[/QUOTE]

I'm lost on this post.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 11:14pm
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I've seen this happen twice and was called a violation both times
Who was it called on?!
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 02:26am
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Who was it called on?!
Jumper who caught the ball after it hit the floor.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2015, 12:22pm
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6-3-7: Neither jumper shall:
a. Touch the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point.
Does this actually get called? I know when I played I did this all the time when I knew I was jumping against someone who could out jump be -- and only got called once. Clearly (from the comfort of my seat in the stands) happened in a boys varsity tournament championship game I was watching, and no call and no complaining. (Does seem less important now that there is only one JB per game.)
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2015, 12:39pm
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Does this actually get called? I know when I played I did this all the time when I knew I was jumping against someone who could out jump be -- and only got called once. Clearly (from the comfort of my seat in the stands) happened in a boys varsity tournament championship game I was watching, and no call and no complaining. (Does seem less important now that there is only one JB per game.)
I'm trying to remember the last time I saw it called -- I can't.
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