Inadvertant horn

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Gutierrez7

Interesting enough, during a state final game the horn erroneously sounded with several seconds remaining in the game. The horn does not stop the game in this situation, only the whistle does. PLAY ON.

If you have "definitive" knowledge of the time, you can always adjust the play clock, but only if you have "definitive" knowledge.

Hope this helps.

Agree.

As to definitive knowledge, I'm assuming the timer realized her error pretty quickly and thus I doubt any official started a count here, so probably no "definitive" knowledge. Even if you did have a count, to make a correction here you'd have to blow it dead, take the time off, and then have a throw-in (or another jump ball if possession hadn't been established yet). I wouldn't go there.

I'm not going to split hairs if the game ends up being 32:02 long.

[BigCat]

Rules/case play says official should ignore a horn sounded during live ball if scoring play in progress. any other time he/she MAY stop play.

I'd have to be there and see where ball went on tip and how players react to the horn. I might play on or i might kill it. if i thought the horn gave one team an advantage id kill it. could not put time back on clock without definite knowledge.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Rules/case play says official should ignore a horn sounded during live ball if scoring play in progress.

2.11.3 SITUATION: When may the scorer signal? RULING: If the scorer desires
to call attention to a player who is illegally in the game, he/she may signal the official
when the ball is in control of that player’s team. If it is for a substitution, the
scorer may signal when the ball next becomes dead and the clock is stopped. If
it is for conferring with an official, he/she may signal when the ball is dead. If the
scorer signals while the ball is live, the official should ignore the signal if a
scoring play is in progress. Otherwise, the official may stop play to determine the
reason for the scorer’s signal.

Always listen to ... Hey? What happened to bob? Nice job BigCat.

I'm likely to blow it dead and redo.

[Raymond]

I want the game to start correctly. If I'm the R or the U1 I'm blowing the play dead and starting over.

[DRJ1960]

Happened to me tonight.... THEN, on the "re-jump" (yes, I killed it and we started over), my partner calls a violation because a jumper tapped the ball twice (showed him the book at half time) ... it was a long night.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by DRJ1960

Happened to me tonight.... THEN, on the "re-jump" (yes, I killed it and we started over), my partner calls a violation because a jumper tapped the ball twice (showed him the book at half time) ... it was a long night.

So you were out near my way this evening?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by DRJ1960

... my partner calls a violation because a jumper tapped the ball twice (showed him the book at half time) ...

6-3-7-D: Neither jumper shall:
d. Touch the ball more than twice.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by DRJ1960

... my partner calls a violation because a jumper tapped the ball twice (showed him the book at half time).

Hijack alert: Regarding odd jump ball plays, a reminder to some of our new officials. If, instead of being tapped (actually) three times, in which case the clock should have been started on the first tap, which was legal; one of the jumpers caught the ball before it was tapped, or touched the tossed ball before it reached its highest point, and the clock operator incorrectly started the clock, the clock should be reset to 8:00 to start the game.

5-9-2: If play is started or resumed by a jump, the clock shall be started when the tossed ball is legally touched.

6-3-7: Neither jumper shall:
a. Touch the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point.
c. Catch the jump ball.

Touching the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point, or catching the jump ball, are both illegal touches.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Gutierrez7

Interesting enough, during a state final game the horn erroneously sounded with several seconds remaining in the game. The horn does not stop the game in this situation, only the whistle does. PLAY ON.

If you have "definitive" knowledge of the time, you can always adjust the play clock, but only if you have "definitive" knowledge.

Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Agree.

As to definitive knowledge, I'm assuming the timer realized her error pretty quickly and thus I doubt any official started a count here, so probably no "definitive" knowledge. Even if you did have a count, to make a correction here you'd have to blow it dead, take the time off, and then have a throw-in (or another jump ball if possession hadn't been established yet). I wouldn't go there.

I'm not going to split hairs if the game ends up being 32:02 long.

I may be in the minority here, but if this happens in one of my games, if even a single player pauses for even a moment, I'm hitting my whistle and stopping play. I don't think it's fair if one team gains an advantage because players from the other team instinctively stop play, even if briefly. After all, if this happens mid quarter or so and the ball carrier picks up their dribble and begins to walk to me to hand me the ball, no way I'm calling them for a travel.