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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 09:29pm
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Nine months ago, in a CYO JV Girls #3 Game. (JV-3 usually being 4th graders).

For whatever reason, both teams--after a rather ordinary first half--decided to play very physical in the second half. Late in the fourth quarter, we have a held ball and both my partner and I come in with whistles. After play ends, the visting player wrests the ball away and then pivots forward towards the home player with whom she was tied up. The front of the former's shoulder then hit the latter square in the chest.

I thought the contact was definitely more than incidental, but not flagrant enough for ejection. So, I opted for a T for intentional dead-ball contact.

After reporting the foul, the visiting coach said, "You need to call more fouls." After my initial , I simply replied, "Coach, I just did." I guess he missed both the PC foul and the double-personal foul calls I made (among others) earlier in the half once the game became a foul-fest.
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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 09:48pm
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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 11:03pm
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D3 scrimmage, partner still has the ball, I'm L ball on endline with full court pressure. Partner blows whistle and offensive player shoves defender to get space, defender goes flying, partner still has the ball. I waited about a .5-1 second to give C chance to get the call, then I came in with a whistle.

Coach was unhappy about the fact that it was a T since partner blew whistle, but I explained that the whistle doesn't determine the status of the ball, it's just used to announce that we are about to begin.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 12:13am
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This past weekend I had two in kids' travel games.

A1 is dribbling down the floor and as she gets to the three point line, pushes her defender away with her off arm to create space. I call the offensive foul, report to the table and walk down the floor (away from A's bench). Coach A follows me down the floor saying "Did you really call that offensive?" in a derogatory tone. "Yes I did coach," I say. "Did you just buy that whistle yesterday?" he says. WHACK.

He sat down and shut up the rest of the game.

Game 2:

Team A is blowing out Team B. Late in the game Team A runs a particular play successfully. Apparently Coach B took exception to Team A (thought they were running up the score?) and said something in the direction of A's bench. Next time down, Coach A says rather loudly..."Run it again if they want to talk s***!" WHACK! Coach A says "Oh, I was talking to my assistant".

I can't wait to get back to high school ball.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 05:25am
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VB fall league last week. Late in second half (20 min halves, running clock) A1 driving the lane for a layup. B1 comes across the lane and goes up for a very nice block. A1 loses his balance and his momentum takes him to the ground. B1 stands over him, glares and shouts, "Get that s%!t out of here!" I'm L. WHACK!

Coach immediately sits B1 down while spewing, "You can't do that! You gotta stay composed! What are you thinking?!"

A2 makes both FT's and A gets the ball.

B eventually lost by 1........
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 07:54am
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Coach was unhappy about the fact that it was a T since partner blew whistle, but I explained that the whistle doesn't determine the status of the ball, it's just used to announce that we are about to begin.

This is why I only blow the whistle in this situation after a timeout, intermission, or unusual delay. Some officials do it on every throw-in, and as you can see, sometimes this is the unintended result. If your mechanics manual and/or assigner directs it, then do it. Otherwise, I recommend limiting the throw-in whistles.


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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:56am
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High school seniors all star game....the admin did not communicate a limit of 2 timeouts per game to the floor crew, or to coaches apparently. Coach required his third timeout , which I granted. Informed by table it was excessive, so we had a tech. Seems silly really but those were the rules they were playing with.
All star game....could you have gotten away with no T and just given the other guy an extra timeout?
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 12:52pm
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All star game....could you have gotten away with no T and just given the other guy an extra timeout?

Nope, admins were at table and they were ones who advised only two timeouts after book told me coach was out. I thought it was silly but thems the breaks for not reading the rules sheet. Coach was not upset, he just shrugged it off.


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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 10:06am
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Coach had already been seatbelted earlier after chirping the entire game. He jumps off the bench and yells, "That's a foul!"

Bye-bye, coach. Enjoy your suspension and $300 fine.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 10:58am
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No ... don't do it

Middle school game, two very lower level teams. Kid gets the ball in the key and throws up a prayer of a shot that goes in. The 30 to 40 fans in the stands go wild. Kid is grinning ear to ear. I'm thinking it's the first basket of his life. Then he grabs the ball coming through the net, turns, and slams it down, bounding away in happiness. I think about for a half second and decide to just warn the kid. He wasn't trying to gain advantage, wasn't trying to showboat or show up the other team. He's just sooo happy. I blow whistle, tell him not to do that again, tell the coach the issue, and he tells the player to leave the ball alone after a score.

Two minutes later, he scores the second basket of his career. And he tracks the ball down again and runs partway down the court in utter glee before finally slamming the ball down. Whack. Coach laughs and gives me the "what can you do?" Shrug.

The other team then violated on both free throws.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 10:59am
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I don't even remember my last T. I don't think I had one on a coach last year. I think I got a couple of players but I honestly don't remember them.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:44am
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:49am
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:11pm
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NCAAW mandates the lead whistle before throw-ins.
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Old Sat Nov 14, 2015, 04:29pm
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Since you asked...

Last night...first regular season G-V game. I call a shooting foul on V1. I'm tableside in front of her bench reporting. Her coach says to her "that was the correct call on you". She walks past me and says to her coach loud enough for the whole bench and table to hear: "No it wasnt. That was a terrible call". Whack! First game...first T of the season. Hope it's not an omen.
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