And my last T was for....

[BigT]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Had a really bad coach the other night. Could have got him for ABS multiple times but my veteran partner said he was gonna take care of him (he didn't). This coach whined about EVERYTHING. At one point this coach was whining about my partner not granting the other coach a timeout during a dead ball. Partner didn't see/hear coach but it didn't matter cuz I came tableside and granted the timeout like 15 seconds later.

This dude would not shut up. I was U2 and working with two 20-year plus vets so I didn't think it was my place to have a "come to Jesus" talk with this guy. I ended up warning both coaches at the same time in the 4th quarter when they were both yapping at me when I came tableside to report a foul.

Last tech I actually called was last week during men's league. I was Trail and had ball handler in my area and had an off-ball foul where an offensive player was trying to cut and the defender impeded him. They tangled up and both fell to the floor. The defender got up first and stood over the other guy and taunted him. Probably should have pitched him but it turns out the league has a 1 tech = disqualification policy. Yay.

I have a great chance at my first 3 man HS game this year. My question is how long does it take to become comfortable calling a T when you have 2 vets who really arent taking care of misbehaving coaches?

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by BigT

I have a great chance at my first 3 man HS game this year. My question is how long does it take to become comfortable calling a T when you have 2 vets who really arent taking care of misbehaving coaches?

Define misbehaving. I am not going to T a coach who is in the coaches box giving either of my partners a hard time. They need to man up and take care of their own business or put up with grief all game long. On the other hand, if the coach is out on the floor, way out of the coaches box, or screaming at a partner across the floor and said partner doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to take care of the problem, I will. The point is, rookie or not, you should not be counting on your partners to handle coaches for you. If/when the coach is on your ass, and out of line, take care of business. If/when the coach is on your partners ass, then just like officiating in your primary area, let that partner handle or not handle his own business.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Define misbehaving. I am not going to T a coach who is in the coaches box giving either of my partners a hard time. They need to man up and take care of their own business or put up with grief all game long. On the other hand, if the coach is out on the floor, way out of the coaches box, or screaming at a partner across the floor and said partner doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to take care of the problem, I will. The point is, rookie or not, you should not be counting on your partners to handle coaches for you. If/when the coach is on your ass, and out of line, take care of business. If/when the coach is on your partners ass, then just like officiating in your primary area, let that partner handle or not handle his own business.

Thanks Johnny D, great advice.

Originally Posted by BigT

I have a great chance at my first 3 man HS game this year. My question is how long does it take to become comfortable calling a T when you have 2 vets who really arent taking care of misbehaving coaches?

That's a good question, but one with a "it depends" answer. The coach in my game wasn't being profane, he didn't go insane, he yelled a few times but not that loud. It was just persistent comments whenever I was Trail or Slot tableside. Persistent comments about this, persistent comments about that. He got on the R (35+ year vet who used to work college) about two calls he had in the first quarter and at the break he told my other partner and I that he was done (despite no publically warning the coach??). He said he would take care of him. But no, he just kept talking to the coach.

Coaches vote affects our postseason assignments so a lot of refs here don't buckle up and just whack the guy cuz 1) we would get a bad vote and 2) we don't have support from a supervisor, the school could easily make sure we never come back there. It sucks but it is what it is. So as the young guy on the crew I decided to just ignore the persistent comments and let my partners do the dirty work if they chose to do so. They didn't which is a shame, but I did at least warn the coaches and they were a little better after that. Our system of warning coaches here is a little different than the college game where when a coach has been warned no one can talk to him again except the guy who warned him. I see partners over the hobnobbing with coaches I have warned all the time.

You bet I have the intestinal fortitude to take care of insanity or profanity, but in this case I chose to ignore the persistent comments.