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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 08:11pm
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High school seniors all star game....the admin did not communicate a limit of 2 timeouts per game to the floor crew, or to coaches apparently. Coach required his third timeout , which I granted. Informed by table it was excessive, so we had a tech. Seems silly really but those were the rules they were playing with.


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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 08:58pm
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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 09:29pm
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Nine months ago, in a CYO JV Girls #3 Game. (JV-3 usually being 4th graders).

For whatever reason, both teams--after a rather ordinary first half--decided to play very physical in the second half. Late in the fourth quarter, we have a held ball and both my partner and I come in with whistles. After play ends, the visting player wrests the ball away and then pivots forward towards the home player with whom she was tied up. The front of the former's shoulder then hit the latter square in the chest.

I thought the contact was definitely more than incidental, but not flagrant enough for ejection. So, I opted for a T for intentional dead-ball contact.

After reporting the foul, the visiting coach said, "You need to call more fouls." After my initial , I simply replied, "Coach, I just did." I guess he missed both the PC foul and the double-personal foul calls I made (among others) earlier in the half once the game became a foul-fest.
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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 09:48pm
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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 11:03pm
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D3 scrimmage, partner still has the ball, I'm L ball on endline with full court pressure. Partner blows whistle and offensive player shoves defender to get space, defender goes flying, partner still has the ball. I waited about a .5-1 second to give C chance to get the call, then I came in with a whistle.

Coach was unhappy about the fact that it was a T since partner blew whistle, but I explained that the whistle doesn't determine the status of the ball, it's just used to announce that we are about to begin.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 12:13am
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This past weekend I had two in kids' travel games.

A1 is dribbling down the floor and as she gets to the three point line, pushes her defender away with her off arm to create space. I call the offensive foul, report to the table and walk down the floor (away from A's bench). Coach A follows me down the floor saying "Did you really call that offensive?" in a derogatory tone. "Yes I did coach," I say. "Did you just buy that whistle yesterday?" he says. WHACK.

He sat down and shut up the rest of the game.

Game 2:

Team A is blowing out Team B. Late in the game Team A runs a particular play successfully. Apparently Coach B took exception to Team A (thought they were running up the score?) and said something in the direction of A's bench. Next time down, Coach A says rather loudly..."Run it again if they want to talk s***!" WHACK! Coach A says "Oh, I was talking to my assistant".

I can't wait to get back to high school ball.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 10:30am
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This past weekend I had two in kids' travel games.

A1 is dribbling down the floor and as she gets to the three point line, pushes her defender away with her off arm to create space. I call the offensive foul, report to the table and walk down the floor (away from A's bench). Coach A follows me down the floor saying "Did you really call that offensive?" in a derogatory tone. "Yes I did coach," I say. "Did you just buy that whistle yesterday?" he says. WHACK.

He sat down and shut up the rest of the game.

Game 2:

Team A is blowing out Team B. Late in the game Team A runs a particular play successfully. Apparently Coach B took exception to Team A (thought they were running up the score?) and said something in the direction of A's bench. Next time down, Coach A says rather loudly..."Run it again if they want to talk s***!" WHACK! Coach A says "Oh, I was talking to my assistant".

I can't wait to get back to high school ball.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 05:25am
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VB fall league last week. Late in second half (20 min halves, running clock) A1 driving the lane for a layup. B1 comes across the lane and goes up for a very nice block. A1 loses his balance and his momentum takes him to the ground. B1 stands over him, glares and shouts, "Get that s%!t out of here!" I'm L. WHACK!

Coach immediately sits B1 down while spewing, "You can't do that! You gotta stay composed! What are you thinking?!"

A2 makes both FT's and A gets the ball.

B eventually lost by 1........
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 07:31am
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H.S. boys' tournament in October. A1 says something dumb to B1. B1 says something equally as dumb in return. Bang...now you both have something.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 10:32am
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H.S. boys' tournament in October. A1 says something dumb to B1. B1 says something equally as dumb in return. Bang...now you both have something.
Thank heaven trash talking is rare here. I have great hearing. Are the kids just that stupid to be so loud as to easily be heard by the officials? Or are you pretty close to hot spots (players) when you notice some talking going on?
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 07:54am
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Coach was unhappy about the fact that it was a T since partner blew whistle, but I explained that the whistle doesn't determine the status of the ball, it's just used to announce that we are about to begin.

This is why I only blow the whistle in this situation after a timeout, intermission, or unusual delay. Some officials do it on every throw-in, and as you can see, sometimes this is the unintended result. If your mechanics manual and/or assigner directs it, then do it. Otherwise, I recommend limiting the throw-in whistles.


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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 09:46am
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This is why I only blow the whistle in this situation after a timeout, intermission, or unusual delay. Some officials do it on every throw-in ...

I recommend limiting the throw-in whistles.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:58am
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This is why I only blow the whistle in this situation after a timeout, intermission, or unusual delay. Some officials do it on every throw-in, and as you can see, sometimes this is the unintended result. If your mechanics manual and/or assigner directs it, then do it. Otherwise, I recommend limiting the throw-in whistles.
I have started whistling for all frontcourt throw-ins and I do it as I am handing the ball to the thrower, thus I can't have the situation where I am calling a tech for contact after I have whistled but before the ball is live.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 06:11pm
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I have started whistling for all frontcourt throw-ins ...
What led you to this mechanic? Just curious.

I understand a lot of people feel the need to alert players in these congested areas (especially defenders who may have their backs to the ball) that play is about to resume. I see a lot of guys yell "Play" or "Play it!" just before administering the throw-in, as an alternative to adding more whistles to the game.

I've adopted the "Play" version on the advice of a veteran NCAA Division II men's official on our board.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:56am
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High school seniors all star game....the admin did not communicate a limit of 2 timeouts per game to the floor crew, or to coaches apparently. Coach required his third timeout , which I granted. Informed by table it was excessive, so we had a tech. Seems silly really but those were the rules they were playing with.
All star game....could you have gotten away with no T and just given the other guy an extra timeout?
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