Quarter Throw-in Spot

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ODog

So you NEVER administer with a bounce on any throw-in?

I bounce wherever the manual allows us to. Definitely on a midcourt throw-in so I can get a few steps into the BC.

[ODog]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I bounce wherever the manual allows us to. Definitely on a midcourt throw-in so I can get a few steps into the BC.

Same here.

I was just asking KansasRef if he ever does it ... because it sounds like he never does.

[Kansas Ref]

Originally Posted by ODog

Same here.

I was just asking KansasRef if he ever does it ... because it sounds like he never does.

*Attended a clinic this 3 summers ago where clinician was telling us to hand off the ball to throw-in player--clinician had reported on seeing players fumble bumble the ball. I have seen other refs bounce the ball to sideline thrower and I've seen other refs hand it off, and I've read in the NFHS manual that a bounce pass to thrower on sideline is suggested--but not required procedure. Alas, this seems like each refs preference on what to do.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

*Attended a clinic this 3 summers ago where clinician was telling us to hand off the ball to throw-in player--clinician had reported on seeing players fumble bumble the ball. I have seen other refs bounce the ball to sideline thrower and I've seen other refs hand it off, and I've read in the NFHS manual that a bounce pass to thrower on sideline is suggested--but not required procedure. Alas, this seems like each refs preference on what to do.

But what about that thing where you have the thrower in the front court instead of straddling the division line?

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[Shooter14]

I ALWAYS hand the ball when under the baseline, and bounce when on the sideline.

So everyone here makes the thrower straddle the line? In my personal experience I've seen about 60 percent of refs put the thrower slightly in the Frontcourt, about 30 percent in the Backcourt, and less than 10 percent actually straddle the line.

[Kansas Ref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

So everyone here makes the thrower straddle the line? In my personal experience I've seen about 60 percent of refs put the thrower slightly in the Frontcourt, about 30 percent in the Backcourt, and less than 10 percent actually straddle the line.

*well like I said in my post earlier--I do administer such throw-ins by positioning A1 one step into the Front court. I was unaware that I was in the majority of refs who did it in this fashion--until you cited your observational statistics.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by AremRed

So everyone here makes the thrower straddle the line? In my personal experience I've seen about 60 percent of refs put the thrower slightly in the Frontcourt, about 30 percent in the Backcourt, and less than 10 percent actually straddle the line.

As long as the designated spot is at the division line, as prescribed.

BTW, observational evidence is a tenuous basis for what mechanics to follow. Seven years ago around here, 98% ballwatched outside their PCA all the time, 95% called "On the Floor!" when act of shooting had already begun, 92% of Trails stood just inside the division line and bailed before the shot was released, 89% refused to call 5-seconds closely guarded cuz it was a "game stopper", and 86% . . ..
Now very few do those things.
Wrong is still wrong, even though the majority does it. Right is still right, even though only the minority does it.

Now, back to things that take place more than 3 times per game...

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

So everyone here makes the thrower straddle the line? In my personal experience I've seen about 60 percent of refs put the thrower slightly in the Frontcourt, about 30 percent in the Backcourt, and less than 10 percent actually straddle the line.

I'm trying to find an intelligent or logical reason not to have them start at the division line. Why would an official purposely put the throw in in the back or the front court?

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[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

So everyone here makes the thrower straddle the line? In my personal experience I've seen about 60 percent of refs put the thrower slightly in the Frontcourt, about 30 percent in the Backcourt, and less than 10 percent actually straddle the line.

If they're within a foot or so of the division line, off we go. I don't care if they're slightly in the frontcourt, straddling, or slightly in the backcourt.

So, if you observed me over 100 throwins, you might get those statistics just from me.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by Shooter14

I ALWAYS hand the ball when under the baseline, and bounce when on the sideline.

I once worked in a high school associated that mandated the official ALWAYS hand the ball to the thrower in. No bounce passes were allowed, per association mechanic. There were no exceptions to this mechanic and it was one of the most non-nonsensical things I'd ever seen.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

*Attended a clinic this 3 summers ago where clinician was telling us to hand off the ball to throw-in player--clinician had reported on seeing players fumble bumble the ball. I have seen other refs bounce the ball to sideline thrower and I've seen other refs hand it off, and I've read in the NFHS manual that a bounce pass to thrower on sideline is suggested--but not required procedure. Alas, this seems like each refs preference on what to do.

If the clinician tells you to do it, do it during the clinic and for any games where he or she has any control over your schedule. Now that I've stated the obvious.

I honestly can't remember a player above grade school fumbling a throw-in bounce from me. If they're not paying attention to the point where they are going to fumble a soft bounce pass, they're nearly as likely to fumble the hand-off.