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Old Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:06pm
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I'm kind of a stickler for the "exact" spot the OP refers to, even though "at the division line" isn't more accurately defined. I try to get the thrower to straddle the DL extended (evaluators pick up on little things like this). But......if they move a step or two one way or the other, I'm also not going to delay putting the ball in play. This is low on my totem pole of pet peeves.


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Old Tue Nov 10, 2015, 05:10pm
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Since the division line should be two inches wide and the designated spot is 3-feet in width, the thrower actually has 17 inches on each side of the division line.
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Old Tue Nov 10, 2015, 05:31pm
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...low on my totem pole of pet peeves.
Got that.
What should rise to the level of pet peevish is when the all-too-casual official just allows the player to stand just anywhere over there (quite wide of the dimension over which the player must have "a foot on or over"), and in doing so takes the advantage of the relative location of the division line away from a pressing defense and an unsuspecting player who catches the throw-in and get him/herself trapped up against it.
It just isn't that hard to point to the "spot" and make the player at least start there.
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Old Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:19am
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Throw In Designation

Thanks guys.....I get all of that. What I was looking for is our crew, always gives the ball to the thrower, one step into their new backcourt. Should we be right on the line, 1/2 and 1/2 theoretically? How are most crews administering this?
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Old Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:58am
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Thanks guys.....I get all of that. What I was looking for is our crew, always gives the ball to the thrower, one step into their new backcourt. Should we be right on the line, 1/2 and 1/2 theoretically? How are most crews administering this?
Rather than mechanics by consensus, wouldn't it be better to ask what the NFHS or the IAABO or your state expects?
Whereas I'd be interested in the last two codes, for states that have adopted NFHS Officials' Manual mechanics, here's what it says:

> "The throw-in to start to the second, third and fourth quarters shall be administered by the Referee at the division line opposite the table."

I have never seen anywhere this "one step" toward the backcourt or toward the frontcourt specified. And if you start them out there, if/when they keep their one foot on or over the 36" area and end up 2 steps or more away from the division line do you call a violation?

Just point so they straddle the division line. Easy. Nuff said. Right?
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Old Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:02am
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As to the method of administration . . .

Whereas I'd be interested in what the IAABO and others' states specify, the NFHS book says, "When administering throw-ins on the frontcourt end line the ball shall be handed to the thrower." And again, "The Lead shall hand the ball to the thrower when remaining in the frontcourt." And, "When administering throw-ins on the sideline, a bounce pass is recommended."

Couple of examples for analysis and discussion:
How Could Handing the Ball to the Thrower Be Correct Here?
What Advantage Does Bouncing the Ball to the Thrower Provide Here?
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Old Wed Nov 11, 2015, 08:36am
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At the Division Line

Though this only takes place usually three times per game, I contend that casuality of this nature deprives the defense from using the division line to their advantage when an unsuspecting receiver of the throw-in gets trapped against it in the frontcourt.
A savvy coach may want this advantage.

At the Division Line???
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Old Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:01pm
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I'd be interested in what ... IAABO ...
IAAABO Mechanics Manual

Throwin:

E. Throwin administration
1. Administering official shall visually "sweep the floor"
h. hand or bounce ball to thrower
Exception: on all frontcourt endline throwins the ball shall be handed to the thrower

G. Crew of two throwin
1. Administering official may hand ball to throwerin
2. Administering official may bounce the ball to throwerin
Exception: Ball handed to throwerin for frontcourt endline throwins
3. Lead as administering official
c. may bounce ball to thrower for sideline throwin below free throw line extended
Exception: if fans or bench personnel create congestion or there is defensive pressure, the ball shale be handed to the throwerin ...
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IAAABO Mechanics Manual

Throwin:

E. Throwin administration
1. Administering official shall visually "sweep the floor"
h. hand or bounce ball to thrower
Exception: on all frontcourt endline throwins the ball shall be handed to the thrower

G. Crew of two throwin
1. Administering official may hand ball to throwerin
2. Administering official may bounce the ball to throwerin
Exception: Ball handed to throwerin for frontcourt endline throwins
3. Lead as administering official
c. may bounce ball to thrower for sideline throwin below free throw line extended
Exception: if fans or bench personnel create congestion or there is defensive pressure, the ball shale be handed to the throwerin ...

And as everybody can see, IAABO, NFHS, and NCAA Men's/Women's mechanics are the same.

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