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Old Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:57am
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In my association's most recent development, we spent half our meeting tonight talking about Arbiter blocks, ZIP codes, scrimmages, and Thanksgiving tournaments. When we were supposed to be discussing Rules 9 and 10 the entire time.
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Old Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:50am
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In my association's most recent development, we spent half our meeting tonight talking about Arbiter blocks, ZIP codes, scrimmages, and Thanksgiving tournaments. When we were supposed to be discussing Rules 9 and 10 the entire time.
Based on all I have read about your state run association, they need to go ahead and make their officials employees since they want to control every facet of their officiating careers.

If I were a college official in SC, my only HS officiating would be for the private schools. I would tell the state public schools association to kick rocks.
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Old Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:17pm
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Losing younger officials to college.

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Maybe the association wouldn't be losing officials, but instead sharing them with college conferences, if they felt more welcome and appreciated for the availability they do give to the HS association.
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Old Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:43pm
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Maybe the association wouldn't be losing officials, but instead sharing them with college conferences, if they felt more welcome and appreciated for the availability they do give to the HS association.
Our problem is that some college officials (not all, not even most) feel they're too good to have to meet the requirements of membership of the HS association....the meetings/training requirements specifically. They want to be excused from those requirements so they only have to pay their dues and show up at games. That is not entirely wrong. But, as soon as you start giving exemptions for things, the problem just grows when everyone has a "good" reason to not be at the training.
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Old Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:59pm
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Maybe the association wouldn't be losing officials, but instead sharing them with college conferences, if they felt more welcome and appreciated for the availability they do give to the HS association.
It stems from Bitterness and Resentment...Many College Officials that do HS are the ones selected for playoffs and so others feel "Blocked" Its ugly and not right but it is the case
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Old Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:15am
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It stems from Bitterness and Resentment...Many College Officials that do HS are the ones selected for playoffs and so others feel "Blocked" Its ugly and not right but it is the case
I have most heard of that when officials that do almost all college show up for tourney time. They're not really HS officials but take the playoff games. Some areas (states/association) have a minimum number of regular season HS games required in order to be eligible for post season assignments. I think that is a good idea. Our minimum is 10, which, I think, is still a little low but at least it is something.
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Old Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:50am
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1. Getting people to come to the business meetings to discuss our financial situations.

2. Getting people to participate like give presentations and run for positions.

3. Trying to keep younger officials to keep officiating.

Our associations do not assign per say so they are getting training mostly in our meetings, not getting games or having the leadership require any things to get games.

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Old Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:11pm
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Losing younger officials to college.
My first thought when I saw this was something I heard soon after I took a management position the first time in real life: "The only thing worse than training someone and losing them is not training them and keeping them."

There is a lot less complaining in our association now that the assignor forces college officials to work the required minimum number of HS games to get a playoff assignment.
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Old Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:56pm
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Those who say you are losing guys to college, how many college games can those young guys really get anyway? We have guys around here that do college, but even some of the better guys that have not reached D1 do not get really anymore than 20 to 25 college games. I would not want to work only that amount of games for my entire season.

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Old Tue Oct 27, 2015, 02:43pm
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Those who say you are losing guys to college, how many college games can those young guys really get anyway? We have guys around here that do college, but even some of the better guys that have not reached D1 do not get really anymore than 20 to 25 college games. I would not want to work only that amount of games for my entire season.

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Yes, that's an aspect that is forgotten. Last year was my most prolific college season, working 15 NCAA and 10 JuCo games during the season, plus a JuCo post-season game. My JuCo lost one of the 3 teams local to my area. So though it appears my final NCAA schedule will increase, my JuCo schedule will decrease. I will still have quite a bit of availability for my main HS association, especially on weekdays.

If I were to get to a point that I was working more than 25 college game (JuCo & NCAA), I would stop working HS and volunteer to be an evaluator and fill-in in cases of emergency.
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