Two Block/Charge Plays (Video)

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

#1 Block. B1 tries beating A1 to a spot but contact occurs before B1 established LGP.

Really? B1 never had two feet on the floor with the front of his torso facing A1 at any point prior to contact?

Originally Posted by OKREF

Question.

In play 1, it seems to me that the C has a great, or should have a great look at this play. Any thoughts on him with a whistle. I know it's from the trails primary, any thoughts?

Only if neither the T nor the L blow their whistle.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Really? B1 never had two feet on the floor with the front of his torso facing A1 at any point prior to contact?

I think this is a block, not because he never had LGP but because he lost LGP. He was slow in reacting and moving to maintain it, and thus lost it. He never really made it back into the path with the contact being off to the side as he was moving back into the path and into the opponent laterally making it a block.

[hoopsaddict]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I think this is a block, not because he never had LGP but because he lost LGP. He was slow in reacting and moving to maintain it, and thus lost it. He never really made it back into the path with the contact being off to the side as he was moving back into the path and into the opponent laterally making it a block.

How does being slow in reacting cause you to lose LGP?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict

How does being slow in reacting cause you to lose LGP?

I'm with Camron, when A1 retreated B1 was no longer in LGP. A1 then went in a new direction and B1 never got 2 feet down in his path.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict

How does being slow in reacting cause you to lose LGP?

A1 established a new path and B1 wasn't in it. B1 needed to reestablish LGP and didn't.

[walt]

Bad angle on play #1 but first reaction was block with defender moving into the path of the BH/D but just not getting there in time. Not the best angle on play #2 either because I cannot see between to see if there was any contact but, assuming there was contact, PC in #2.

[hoopsaddict]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm with Camron, when A1 retreated B1 was no longer in LGP. A1 then went in a new direction and B1 never got 2 feet down in his path.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

A1 established a new path and B1 wasn't in it. B1 needed to reestablish LGP and didn't.

By rule, a defender can move laterally or obliquely to maintain position after they initially obtain legal guarding position as long as they do not move toward the opponent when contact occurs.

Wouldn't retreating mean the offensive player caused contact with the defender?

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict

By rule, a defender can move laterally or obliquely to maintain position after they initially obtain legal guarding position as long as they do not move toward the opponent when contact occurs.

Wouldn't retreating mean the offensive player caused contact with the defender?

When A1 pulls the ball back out (towards T), that is what I think was labeled as 'retreating'. At that point B1 hangs back and relinquishes his LGP (he's roughly 10 feet off of A1). There is no maintaining LGP at that point. It is then B1's attempt to again establish (or re-establish) LGP upon A1 driving to the basket, to which he could not do, thus the block call.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

When A1 pulls the ball back out (towards T), that is what I think was labeled as 'retreating'. At that point B1 hangs back and relinquishes his LGP (he's roughly 10 feet off of A1). There is no maintaining LGP at that point. It is then B1's attempt to again establish (or re-establish) LGP upon A1 driving to the basket, to which he could not do, thus the block call.

Really? Where is there anything in the rules that says a defender loses LGP if either player backs away?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict

By rule, a defender can move laterally or obliquely to maintain position after they initially obtain legal guarding position as long as they do not move toward the opponent when contact occurs.

Wouldn't retreating mean the offensive player caused contact with the defender?

He retreated about 6-7 ft from the defender and started a new path.

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