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Old Thu May 15, 2014, 10:35pm
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Balk it first time you see it, with runner on of course. If coach wants an explanation give it to him and let him do the coaching. How is he going to learn how to do it correctly if we don't balk him and let the coach straighten it out? Coach may not know how either, so explanation will be good for him.
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Old Thu May 15, 2014, 11:07pm
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Balk it first time you see it, with runner on of course. If coach wants an explanation give it to him and let him do the coaching. How is he going to learn how to do it correctly if we don't balk him and let the coach straighten it out? Coach may not know how either, so explanation will be good for him.
I think we need to revisit the OP description. I don't know exactly what the pitcher did. Did he look at the catcher while he was standing off to the side of the rubber to get his sign. Then did he step foward to take the rubber, come set and pitch?
If he did this,
"Opposing team's pitcher balked at every pitch (w/runners on). He would stand next to the pitcher's plate and get the sign. Then he would step onto the pitcher's plate and continue with the pitch in one motion."

It could be a no stop or nothing.
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Old Fri May 16, 2014, 09:55am
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It's clearly a no-stop balk. But at the JV level, while I agree we aren't there to coach - letting a balk like this go in cases where it's really not affecting anyone is the prudent action. But you DO need to let the coach know so he can fix it.
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Old Fri May 16, 2014, 02:53pm
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I rarely do JH any more, but I'm not sure I'd be able to keep "That's a balk!" from coming out of my mouth.
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Old Fri May 16, 2014, 03:31pm
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It's clearly a no-stop balk. But at the JV level, while I agree we aren't there to coach - letting a balk like this go in cases where it's really not affecting anyone is the prudent action. But you DO need to let the coach know so he can fix it.
Speaking OBR, not sure about NFHS.
I agree balk.
One oddity is that if I am picturing OP situation correctly pitcher is using the windup even with runners on base.
So I'm not getting him for not stopping.
I've got him for a quick pitch and thus illegal ..... so results in a balk if runners are on base. It's not exactly the situation described in the comment 8.01 but I believe the coment applies. ("Pitchers ... may not step quickly onto the rubber and pitch.")

don't need to wait until there is a runner on and things mught be a little tense either. It is a ball on hitter 1, pitch 1 (unless he puts it in play & reaches) so the problem is addressed early, with a minor penalty.
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Old Fri May 16, 2014, 03:58pm
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I'd have to go look up FED but in OBR the pitcher has to start from a position standing on the rubber.

This was NOT happening here.
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Old Sat May 17, 2014, 07:49pm
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If you let someone pitch without 1st coming to a stop on the plate, what's to prevent him from taking a running start as in cricket?
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Old Mon May 19, 2014, 08:29am
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I'd like to understand what balk the OP was observing.

If the pitcher is stepping on and quick pitching or not stopping, then agree this is a balk and should be delt with. For me at the JH level this will be a discussion with the coach between innings if offense is not being hurt (quick pitch affecting batter).

If the OP is identifying taking the sign while off the rubber as the balk, then probably have nothing. The only way I'm balking taking a sign off the rubber is if the pitcher is clearly trying to fake the runners that he is on the rubber. Since in this case, he then steps on and continues with pitching, then nothing.
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