Restricted To The Dugout??

[CT1]

Originally Posted by wvumpire1807

This is the dumbest rule in all of baseball. The dugout restriction. What good does it do. Every time I have restricted an ejection comes later. So I have stopped restricting and just ejecting.

In our state, any ejection carries a minimum $300 fine. We are asked to restrict first (if at all possible), even though an ejection may soon follow. The coach will have a hard time winning an administrative appeal in those circumstances.

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by wvumpire1807

This is the dumbest rule in all of baseball. The dugout restriction. What good does it do. Every time I have restricted an ejection comes later. So I have stopped restricting and just ejecting.

I'm going to assume that you are from West Virginia by your screen name, I know that it's dangerous to assume, but here we go. BTW, I'm not saying anything bad about West Virginia, I'm just going to tell what the UIL wants in Texas. The University Interscholastic League, UIL, is the governing body for HS sports in the State of Texas.

UIL wants officials to keep head and assistant coaches in the game if at all possible. It's our job to diffuse any situation to where the coach is prevented from ejecting himself. The restricting to the dugout is a tool that we can use. It's like the first tech given to a coach in basketball. Basketball officials call it the seat belt rule, the coach can't get up out of the chair to do diddly squat. The restriction to the dugout does the same thing. The coach knows he has parked himself right on top of the line and he will be gone if he does anything else.

If we eject a coach, a report has to be filled out with the UIL. It shows due diligence on behalf of the official if a restriction to the dugout was done first. I agree with you that in certain events an ejection is warranted without using a restriction, but as Texas officials, we are encourged to use the restriction as the first step.

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

That's quite odd. I would be unejected seatbelted coaches outnumber seatbelted-then-later-ejected coaches about 20 - 1 in games I've been involved with. I almost never hear another word from a seatbelted coach - AT ALL - during the remainder of the game.

"Every time" seems to me to be a tremendous stretch.

Mike, you type a lot faster than I do.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by wvumpire1807

This is the dumbest rule in all of baseball.

Actually, the dumbest rule in all of FED baseball is the immediate dead ball on a balk. At least I thought that when my son played and his two-run double was negated because the pitcher didn't pause after going set.

Or has FED finally come to its senses and changed that rule? I don't umpire FED baseball, so I don't have any idea.

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Actually, the dumbest rule in all of FED baseball is the immediate dead ball on a balk. At least I thought that when my son played and his two-run double was negated because the pitcher didn't pause after going set.

Or has FED finally come to its senses and changed that rule? I don't umpire FED baseball, so I don't have any idea.

It's still an immediate dead ball.

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Actually, the dumbest rule in all of FED baseball is the immediate dead ball on a balk. At least I thought that when my son played and his two-run double was negated because the pitcher didn't pause after going set.

Or has FED finally come to its senses and changed that rule? I don't umpire FED baseball, so I don't have any idea.

It's also why when you call a balk you call it VERY forcefully so hopefully everyone will stop and F1 doesn't deliver the pitch.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Actually, the dumbest rule in all of FED baseball is the immediate dead ball on a balk. At least I thought that when my son played and his two-run double was negated because the pitcher didn't pause after going set.

Or has FED finally come to its senses and changed that rule? I don't umpire FED baseball, so I don't have any idea.

At least that rule has its basis in OBR. It's just a shame that FED hasn't progressed the six decades since then.