LLWS - Championship

[PeteBooth]

The one "thing" we do not know is how these umpires are instructed.

I cannot remember anyone getting tossed in the LL Regionals or LLWS and there were some actions that warrented it.

If you remember the Danny Almonte era, there was a player on the Bronx team who hit an HR and taunted the other team all the way around the bases. Even his own coach said he probably should have been EJ'd.

There was a coach many years back who made a mockrey by not allowing one of his players to get the minimum one at bat requirement and took a forfeit. I think it was a coach from Indiana if memory serves and nothing happened.

I could go on and on which leads me to believe that these umpires are SPECIFICALLY instructed not to toss anyone.

As far as the strike zone goes these "guys / gals" can't win. It's either too liberal or too tight.

Pete Booth

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

As far as the strike zone goes these "guys / gals" can't win. It's either too liberal or too tight.

A) This is something all umpires live with... But that said -
B) There is a HUGE amount of space between the finals guy's "too small" and the semi-finals guy's "too large" Neither of these two zones were acceptable in anyone's book.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

A) This is something all umpires live with... But that said -
B) There is a HUGE amount of space between the finals guy's "too small" and the semi-finals guy's "too large" Neither of these two zones were acceptable in anyone's book.

The only umpire I know personally was the guy that worked the International Final -- I have no clue whatsoever how he didn't get the championship plate, but that happens all the time in these tourneys. Umpiring ability isn't always the number one reason assignments are made as they are. I know from personal experience.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rich

isn't always

You misspelled "is never"

[Robmoz]

Originally Posted by Rich

The only umpire I know personally was the guy that worked the International Final -- I have no clue whatsoever how he didn't get the championship plate, but that happens all the time in these tourneys. Umpiring ability isn't always the number one reason assignments are made as they are. I know from personal experience.

Which way were you affected....didn't get an assignment you deserved or got an assignment you didn't deserve?

Maybe the other guy that got the champ plate gig was deserving just as much as your friend. C'mon, it's not always "politics" in these tourneys as many people would have you believe. We need to quit perpetuating the sour grapes mentality when we don't get the assignments of our liking and lets be gracious and congratulate the ones that do...and be humble when we get the ones we may be surprised by of our own.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

The one "thing" we do not know is how these umpires are instructed.

I cannot remember anyone getting tossed in the LL Regionals or LLWS and there were some actions that warrented it.

If you remember the Danny Almonte era, there was a player on the Bronx team who hit an HR and taunted the other team all the way around the bases. Even his own coach said he probably should have been EJ'd.

There was a coach many years back who made a mockrey by not allowing one of his players to get the minimum one at bat requirement and took a forfeit. I think it was a coach from Indiana if memory serves and nothing happened.

I could go on and on which leads me to believe that these umpires are SPECIFICALLY instructed not to toss anyone.

As far as the strike zone goes these "guys / gals" can't win. It's either too liberal or too tight.

Pete Booth

Far too much speculation on how people are instructed. I ejected someone in a World Series (Senior Baseball -- kid drew a line -- it was the third ejection in that tournament in 11 years) and I umpired a regional that had 6 games on ESPN (I worked 3 of those games) and received no such instruction. Trust me when I say that if we would've had an ejectable offense present itself to me, I would not have hesitated to umpire the way I always umpire.

While I've not been at WP as an umpire, I am close friends with 2 guys who have -- they received no such instruction and were not told how to call balls and strikes, either.