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Old Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:19pm
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play at the plate UNC vs. NC State

Super close play. PU in position to see the whole thing and makes the correct call. Many others see something else of course. PU handles it well. Did not eject catcher and pitcher who threw down their mask and glove respectively after the call. And he also handled to NC State coach's response in a calm and forceful manner. Good job from my perspective. Response?
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Old Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:34pm
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At first glance I thought for sure he blew the call, and then I thought for sure the ejection count was going to hit 3 pretty quick. (I forgot for a moment that it was NCAA not MLB)

After replays, great call, great professionalism, great umpiring!
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Old Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:47pm
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Good positioning by the PU. Good Call.

But..... I understand this is the CWS but players throwing equipment in disagreement to a call is grounds for immediate ejection. In this case it worked out for everyone but if it happens in my game, someone is going to the parking lot.

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Old Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:35pm
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Good positioning by the PU. Good Call.

But..... I understand this is the CWS but players throwing equipment in disagreement to a call is grounds for immediate ejection. In this case it worked out for everyone but if it happens in my game, someone is going to the parking lot.

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Old Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:49pm
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Learn how to handle a big game? I've had my share of big games and in those games we try to avoid ejections. I understand this is what the PU was doing, but throwing equipment??

Not good.
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Old Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:54am
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In this case it worked out for everyone but if it happens in my game, someone is going to the parking lot.

Thoughts?

I've had my share of big games and in those games we try to avoid ejections.

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I believe you answered your own question.
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Old Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:44pm
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Good positioning by the PU. Good Call.

But..... I understand this is the CWS but players throwing equipment in disagreement to a call is grounds for immediate ejection. In this case it worked out for everyone but if it happens in my game, someone is going to the parking lot.

Thoughts?
That's why he's at the CWS in Omaha (for the 3rd time) and you are at home WATCHING him work the CWS... enough said

BTW, it was a GREAT call and GREAT positioning... as well as GREAT composure!

Oh, and one more thing, I don't know you're background but if I had to guess, "your share of big games" is slightly different than JB's big games. Try googling his background an you'll see what I mean... incredible experience at almost every level of the game and a great guy as well!

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Old Fri Jun 21, 2013, 02:33pm
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That's why he's at the CWS in Omaha (for the 3rd time) and you are at home WATCHING him work the CWS... enough said
I really don't think it's "enough said." You make it sound as though because he's there, his way is the right way or the only way. Notice I've never once put down the umpire -- I know his resume. As I've said, I couldn't hold his jock (nor would I really want to - figuratively or literally).

Given the emphasis on sportsmanship at the regional meetings, I would really like to know why *this game* with all the media attention, shouldn't be treated the same way in this regard as a conference game in April. Because of the exposure, shouldn't this be held up as an example of what the NCAA wants?

Matter of fact, I'd like to know how any college umpire could possibly eject a pitcher and a catcher in a D1 game next season if this same thing happened with this video being so readily available and held up as an example.
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Old Fri Jun 21, 2013, 02:42pm
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It's probably like a lot of sports. You eject someone at that level and it is probably the last time you are invited.
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Old Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:19pm
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That's why he's at the CWS in Omaha (for the 3rd time) and you are at home WATCHING him work the CWS... enough said

BTW, it was a GREAT call and GREAT positioning... as well as GREAT composure!

Oh, and one more thing, I don't know you're background but if I had to guess, "your share of big games" is slightly different than JB's big games. Try googling his background an you'll see what I mean... incredible experience at almost every level of the game and a great guy as well!
You need to back off. I never compared myself to JB and my "Big Games" were not at such a high level.

I'm simply saying that throwing equipment should be an immediate ejection. I think this is true at all levels.

JB handled it but that doesn't mean we should tolerate spoiled ballplayers.
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Old Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:52pm
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Here is the video of the play from NCAA.com...doesn't show much of the conversation with the coach afterward, but does show the reaction of the pitcher and catcher.

CWS Wrap-up: Game 10 - NCAA.com
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Old Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:50pm
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I can imagine that coach the next time they see each other at a home plate meeting - after he's had a chance to see the film. He'll look at the ground, shuffle his feet, and say quietly, "Good call". And that will be that.

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Old Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:33pm
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I can imagine that coach the next time they see each other at a home plate meeting - after he's had a chance to see the film.
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I was doing a varsity high school game earlier this year (I was at "B" position) and called a guy safe at first on a pick-off attempt. Caught an earful from 3rd base dugout. The next morning in the small local paper was a perfect still photo of the runner diving back before the tag. Life was good. Visiting coach was very polite to me the next time we met.
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Old Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:57pm
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First things first: I have not umpired, nor will I likely ever umpire, a CWS.

With that said, I have been selected by our state high school governing body to umpire 8 state championships and I will be working my 5th consecutive American Legion regional this year. While I do have a longer fuse in these big games, the fact remains I have had several ejections at both events; when they eject themselves...they eject themselves, period. If they earn the ejection I will eject them. If as a result of that ejection, the governing/organizing body won't have me back, then so be it. I will have my self-respect as an umpire, however.

F1 and F2 both earned automatic ejections. This isn't MLB where you can give an "equipment violation" to keep them in the game. Those actions are automatic heave-ho's from MiLB down to LL.
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