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SWFLguy Thu Jun 20, 2013 09:19pm

play at the plate UNC vs. NC State
 
Super close play. PU in position to see the whole thing and makes the correct call. Many others see something else of course. PU handles it well. Did not eject catcher and pitcher who threw down their mask and glove respectively after the call. And he also handled to NC State coach's response in a calm and forceful manner. Good job from my perspective. Response?

Reffing Rev. Thu Jun 20, 2013 09:34pm

Heroic Umpiring
 
At first glance I thought for sure he blew the call, and then I thought for sure the ejection count was going to hit 3 pretty quick. (I forgot for a moment that it was NCAA not MLB)

After replays, great call, great professionalism, great umpiring!

Mrumpiresir Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:47pm

Good positioning by the PU. Good Call.

But..... I understand this is the CWS but players throwing equipment in disagreement to a call is grounds for immediate ejection. In this case it worked out for everyone but if it happens in my game, someone is going to the parking lot.

Thoughts?

Rich Ives Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrumpiresir (Post 898017)
Good positioning by the PU. Good Call.

But..... I understand this is the CWS but players throwing equipment in disagreement to a call is grounds for immediate ejection. In this case it worked out for everyone but if it happens in my game, someone is going to the parking lot.

Thoughts?

Watch and learn.

Mrumpiresir Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:49pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 898022)
Watch and learn.

Learn how to handle a big game? I've had my share of big games and in those games we try to avoid ejections. I understand this is what the PU was doing, but throwing equipment??

Not good.

jicecone Fri Jun 21, 2013 07:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrumpiresir (Post 898025)
In this case it worked out for everyone but if it happens in my game, someone is going to the parking lot.

Thoughts?

I've had my share of big games and in those games we try to avoid ejections.

Not good.

I believe you answered your own question.

SWFLguy Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:18am

Re: no ejection.
I was thinking that if either or both the players had used profanity or said something personal to the PU, they would have been gone. Later in the game they replayed the conversation between the PU and the NC State coach. The umpire made it clear that any more complaining would end up with ejection. That ended the issue right there. I'd work with that guy any day.

Rich Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:39am

I will never work the CWS, so my opinion isn't really relevant.

I thought the mask spike and the glove spike crossed the line, personally. When I see that I wonder if there actually is anything that would get a player ejected in that game. Drawn line with a bat? Dropping an F-bomb at the umpire?

Like I said, doesn't really matter what I think -- I couldn't hold Burleson's jock.

bob jenkins Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:56am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 898070)
I will never work the CWS, so my opinion isn't really relevant.

I thought the mask spike and the glove spike crossed the line, personally. When I see that I wonder if there actually is anything that would get a player ejected in that game. Drawn line with a bat? Dropping an F-bomb at the umpire?

Like I said, doesn't really matter what I think -- I couldn't hold Burleson's jock.

exactly what I thought at the time -- and I thought initially that at least one of the players had been ejected.

I'll bet it comes up in the videos at the meetings next spring

Rich Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:57am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 898073)
exactly what I thought at the time -- and I thought initially that at least one of the players had been ejected.

I'll bet it comes up in the videos at the meetings next spring

And I hope someone has the balls to ask the question, "Why weren't they ejected?"

I thought Burleson dealt with the coach extremely well.

UES Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrumpiresir (Post 898017)
Good positioning by the PU. Good Call.

But..... I understand this is the CWS but players throwing equipment in disagreement to a call is grounds for immediate ejection. In this case it worked out for everyone but if it happens in my game, someone is going to the parking lot.

Thoughts?

That's why he's at the CWS in Omaha (for the 3rd time) and you are at home WATCHING him work the CWS... enough said :eek:

BTW, it was a GREAT call and GREAT positioning... as well as GREAT composure!

Oh, and one more thing, I don't know you're background but if I had to guess, "your share of big games" is slightly ;) different than JB's big games. Try googling his background an you'll see what I mean... incredible experience at almost every level of the game and a great guy as well!

RPatrino Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:53pm

Burley is the complete umpire package for sure!

Rich Fri Jun 21, 2013 02:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UES (Post 898077)
That's why he's at the CWS in Omaha (for the 3rd time) and you are at home WATCHING him work the CWS... enough said :eek:

I really don't think it's "enough said." You make it sound as though because he's there, his way is the right way or the only way. Notice I've never once put down the umpire -- I know his resume. As I've said, I couldn't hold his jock (nor would I really want to - figuratively or literally).

Given the emphasis on sportsmanship at the regional meetings, I would really like to know why *this game* with all the media attention, shouldn't be treated the same way in this regard as a conference game in April. Because of the exposure, shouldn't this be held up as an example of what the NCAA wants?

Matter of fact, I'd like to know how any college umpire could possibly eject a pitcher and a catcher in a D1 game next season if this same thing happened with this video being so readily available and held up as an example.

SE Minnestoa Re Fri Jun 21, 2013 02:42pm

It's probably like a lot of sports. You eject someone at that level and it is probably the last time you are invited.

Rich Fri Jun 21, 2013 02:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SE Minnestoa Re (Post 898093)
It's probably like a lot of sports. You eject someone at that level and it is probably the last time you are invited.

With the umpire in question, I doubt it. He's probably one of the top college umpires of all time. Whatever he did would be held up as the right thing, I suspect.


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