Did I screw this up?

[davelock11]

So after reading responses here and going back through my rule book, I think I got it right after all. I felt pretty good about it at first, but on the ride home my partner thought I should've gotten the out. He said if a runner jumps then he's out. I was pretty sure that wasn't right, but he was very sure of himself.

The runner didn't jump directly over the 3rd baseman on the play. His head probably went over the 3rd baseman's shoulder, but his torso and legs were out to the side and went over his arm and around him.

Thanks for all the input. As a newer (2nd yr) umpire, I learn a lot just lurking around and reading on this site!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by davelock11

So after reading responses here and going back through my rule book, I think I got it right after all. I felt pretty good about it at first, but on the ride home my partner thought I should've gotten the out. He said if a runner jumps then he's out. I was pretty sure that wasn't right, but he was very sure of himself.

The runner didn't jump directly over the 3rd baseman on the play. His head probably went over the 3rd baseman's shoulder, but his torso and legs were out to the side and went over his arm and around him.

Thanks for all the input. As a newer (2nd yr) umpire, I learn a lot just lurking around and reading on this site!

Based on that revised description, I agree with you.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by davelock11

Thanks for all the input. As a newer (2nd yr) umpire, I learn a lot just lurking around and reading on this site!

Please stick around, asking questions and contributing. Don't be bashful about posting, increased participation helps us all.

[MD Longhorn]

Sounds like you ruled correctly to me as well.

Had a clinician tell us once that "hurdling" should only be called if the runner went directly over the fielder's head or shoulders... and also that he can't justify that call unless someone's in danger of taking a knee or leg to the face - although he was known for his hyperbole.

He also said the next time he saw it called legitimately would be his first, and he was a 30-ish year guy.

"If a runner jumps, it's an out"? I worry a little about your partner. Next time you see him, ask him to define a jump, and then when he answers, how does his definition differ from a normal stride.

[bluehair]

Originally Posted by davelock11

Thanks for all the input. As a newer (2nd yr) umpire, I learn a lot just lurking around and reading on this site!

Nothing seer a memory into place like booting one on the field. Second best is booting one on the internet. Don't be afraid to take a virtual beating on some internet site because you don't have ten years of experience. Jump in, take your best shot, and roll with the punches.

[RPatrino]

My games have all been rained out this week, and I'm bored. Soooooooo, let's take this thread in another direction for a second.

" The ball gets there, but the 3rd baseman drops it. He is in front of the bag."

Let's talk about obstruction, any thoughts?

[MD Longhorn]

RP - I thought about that initially as well, but didn't want to muddy it up, as OBS was not the intent of what the OP was trying to figure out.


But yeah - if he drops it and is still in the way, and runner reacts, you have OBS.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

My games have all been rained out this week, and I'm bored. Soooooooo, let's take this thread in another direction for a second.

" The ball gets there, but the 3rd baseman drops it. He is in front of the bag."

Let's talk about obstruction, any thoughts?

yes, you have OBS. But, if the runner then jumps over the fielder, the runner is still out.

[RPatrino]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

yes, you have OBS. But, if the runner then jumps over the fielder, the runner is still out.

I agree, if in this situation the runner actually, hurdled, leaped or jumped, over a fielder not on the ground. You had to be there. Personally, I have never seen a pure case of this happening.

[rbmartin]

After seeing the initial description and subsequent description of this play, I rule...PLAY ON!

[CT1]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

" The ball gets there, but the 3rd baseman drops it. He is in front of the bag."

Safe.