Obscure Rule

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

I think the original question was will R3 be allowed to score unless there is an appeal at 3B for R3's failure to retouch.

The answer is yes.

An appeal is required.

The umpire cannot just make the call - ever.

Unless it's FED rules and the play is in South (?) Carolina where they still have the old "THe umpire will call an out for baserunning infractions" rule.

[Forest Ump]

Adding to what Rich said; They could appeal again for a 4th out appeal, that R3 left early. That would remove the run if the appeal were upheld.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Forest Ump

Adding to what Rich said; They could appeal again for a 4th out appeal, that R3 left early. That would remove the run if the appeal were upheld.

"Again"? They didn't appeal R3 at all.

But yes - they should have additionally appealed R3 to kill the run.

[RPatrino]

Rich, they 'appealed' the runner at first leaving early. The implied appeal being the throw back to first after the catch of the line-drive.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

Rich, they 'appealed' the runner at first leaving early. The implied appeal being the throw back to first after the catch of the line-drive.

I know that. That's not my issue.

They couldn't/didn't "again" appeal the runner at third because he wasn't appealed in the first place.

[maven]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

I know that. That's not my issue.

They couldn't/didn't "again" appeal the runner at third because he wasn't appealed in the first place.

Ridiculous quibble, and wrong to boot. Forest wrote, "They could appeal again for a 4th out appeal," not "They could appeal R3 again for a 4th out appeal."

Having already appealed R1, the defense would be appealing again if they also appealed R3 for an advantageous 4th out.

[Forest Ump]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

I know that. That's not my issue.

They couldn't/didn't "again" appeal the runner at third because he wasn't appealed in the first place.

What are you drinking Rich? They appealed once at 1st and I said they could appeal again , as in a second appeal, at 3rd. Sounds pretty straight forward IMO.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Forest Ump

What are you drinking Rich? They appealed once at 1st and I said they could appeal again , as in a second appeal, at 3rd. Sounds pretty straight forward IMO.

We had different English teachers.