Obscure Rule

[maven]

Forest is correct. When the defense attempts to "double off" a runner, that IS an appeal play. An appeal play is a time play: if the run scores before the out occurs, then it counts.

The rule reference (pro rules) is 4.09.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by maven

An appeal play is a time play.

In this case it is, but not always.

[maven]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

In this case it is, but not always.

If you had posted the OP, I would have added the word 'retouch' to be perfectly correct.

But then, you wouldn't have posted the OP.

[Rich Ives]

I think the original question was will R3 be allowed to score unless there is an appeal at 3B for R3's failure to retouch.

The answer is yes.

An appeal is required.

The umpire cannot just make the call - ever.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

I think the original question was will R3 be allowed to score unless there is an appeal at 3B for R3's failure to retouch.

The answer is yes.

An appeal is required.

The umpire cannot just make the call - ever.

Unless it's FED rules and the play is in South (?) Carolina where they still have the old "THe umpire will call an out for baserunning infractions" rule.

[Forest Ump]

Adding to what Rich said; They could appeal again for a 4th out appeal, that R3 left early. That would remove the run if the appeal were upheld.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Forest Ump

Adding to what Rich said; They could appeal again for a 4th out appeal, that R3 left early. That would remove the run if the appeal were upheld.

"Again"? They didn't appeal R3 at all.

But yes - they should have additionally appealed R3 to kill the run.

[rbmartin]

Originally Posted by maven

when the defense attempts to "double off" a runner, that is an appeal play.

+1