NCAA question

[UmpTTS43]

D - All of the above, is not a correct answer.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by UmpTTS43

D - All of the above, is not a correct answer.

Based on ....

(Not doubting you; just seeking clarification)

[zm1283]

You know, I have no problem taking rules tests and discussing questions all day. But when it has taken almost four pages and we still can't figure it out and have differing opinions, do you think the question (Not just that one) is written poorly? I am not as rules-savvy as some people, but I kind of pride myself on staying sharp on the rules, but it seems like the hardest part of this test is just trying to decode the hidden meaning in the questions. I don't feel like that makes anyone a better umpire.

[UmpTTS43]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Based on ....

(Not doubting you; just seeking clarification)

Because A says he must be tagged. Another answer says, paraphrasing, that if the fielder had possession of the ball during the tag attempt the runner would be guilty of going outside of his 3` running lane. You can't have both of these answers as correct.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by UmpTTS43

Because A says he must be tagged. Another answer says, paraphrasing, that if the fielder had possession of the ball during the tag attempt the runner would be guilty of going outside of his 3` running lane. You can't have both of these answers as correct.

You can if you consider them independently.

[JJ]

Since the fielder was in the act of fielding the throw but didn't catch it, he couldn't make a tag attempt so you can't call obstruction on the fielder nore can you call the runner for being out of the basepath. I'm going to get out my flipping coin on this answer...

JJ

[UmpTTS43]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

You can if you consider them independently.

Yes but an all of the above answer means all other answers are correct inclusively. This cannot be the case.

[johnnyg08]

I still like "A" or "C" depending on if you judge a baseline violation or not.

[bob jenkins]

I think I'm going to go with the "best" answer, not necessarily keep searching for the "correct" answer.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by UmpTTS43

Because A says he must be tagged. Another answer says, paraphrasing, that Ifthe fielder had possession of the ball during the tag attempt the runner would be guilty of going outside of his 3` running lane. You can't have both of these answers as correct.

That's a mighty big word you're using there, pardner. Sounds like that is 99.9% of the law. It would be better if the runner ran through the fielder, and got an obstruction call (if that would apply in the rundown).

[UmpTTS43]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

That's a mighty big word you're using there, pardner. Sounds like that is 99.9% of the law. It would be better if the runner ran through the fielder, and got an obstruction call (if that would apply in the rundown).

A - don't get what you're trying to get at.
B - you cannot get OBS if the runner was to run the fielder over since the fielder was in the act of fielding a thrown ball.

[JJ]

After finally watching the video several times and having the answers right in front of me, I'm going with "D".
I think the NCAA is trying to see if we'll get hung up on the "out of the baseline" bit, but since the fielder doesn't have the ball we can't call that. That leaves "he must be tagged" as the only way the defense can get him out. That makes "D" correct for me. FWIW.

JJ

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by UmpTTS43

A - don't get what you're trying to get at.
B - you cannot get OBS if the runner was to run the fielder over since the fielder was in the act of fielding a thrown ball.

A~IF the fielder has possession. From what I've gathered over the years, possession is 9/10ths of the law. The ball doesn't even have to be held in the glove if they attempt a tag with the glove, the runner has gone 3 ft. outside his running lane. They just have to have possession of the ball. Fielder touches runner with glove, you have a missed tag attempt. You run 3 ft. away on tag attempt with no in glove, you're out of the base path.

B~Most times it is just better to run at the fielder. You're in the line of the throw, and might get an obstruction call. That's why I wrote (if that would apply in the rundown). Why I put that part in parentheses.