Hunter Pence.. broken bat

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by nopachunts

After the bat breaks/shatters, does the batter have any control of where the pieces go other than what is left in his hands? Think about it.

Generally no, he doesn't - but that doesn't make the above rule fit the situation.

Also, in the OP, at the point the ball hit the bat, it was not shattered so much as just broken - and batters forward arm movement DID keep that broken piece moving forward. Not sure that applies at all, but he did have SOME control.

I'm not arguing the logic of the call, really... I'm just saying that the rule quoted by Rich and referred to by Oz is not the rule that applies.

[Tim C]

Soon the "what ifs" will start.

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[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Soon the "what ifs" will start.

As I'm sure they did when "The Big Unit" nailed that poor bird...

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Soon the "what ifs" will start.

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What if we just watched the games and not have to scrutinize every facet of every play and call. Kind of like the game was supposed to be enjoyed. No replays, no slo-mo, just sit back and enjoy a day at the park.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

What if we just watched the games and not have to scrutinize every facet of every play and call. Kind of like the game was supposed to be enjoyed. No replays, no slo-mo, just sit back and enjoy a day at the park.

With the exception of truly learning from discussions, some people would not be able to enjoy their day of fame on the forum. It's like your presence on the field. Some feel they have to be noticed, others just do their job.

[dileonardoja]

Even though our eys don't really work in frames you could say at best the human eye can only detect 200 frames/second. This was filmed at 3000 fps. Thus the double hit would be impossible to visually detect and unlikely to be audible among the sounds of the initial hit of the bat the bat shattering. So in essence you don't need a rule because it is humanly impossible to discern this from any other broken bat batted ball.

The rule is written to deal with part of the bat that separates from the handle. In which case when both are still moving, it is a matter of perspective to say which hit the other.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by dileonardoja

Even though our eys don't really work in frames you could say at best the human eye can only detect 200 frames/second.

Point of fact... Depending on what you're measuring, it's more like 10-15 frames per second. If you could see 200 frames per second individually, you would detect flicker in even the highest quality movies.

[dileonardoja]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Point of fact... Depending on what you're measuring, it's more like 10-15 frames per second. If you could see 200 frames per second individually, you would detect flicker in even the highest quality movies.

Completely wrong but this is not a human factors forum so I leave it at that