Tigers vs Yankees Blown call at 2B

[legend]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

This play did not cost the Yanks the game.

But, your comment is silly.

What if it is a tie game in the bottom of the ninth, the home team scores a run on a foul ball ruled to be a HR.

Did one bad call blow the game?

Ummm Maybe Im wrong but isint that now reviewable??

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by legend

Ummm Maybe Im wrong but isint that now reviewable??

Yes, but you get his point.

If you need a more realistic scenario, make it a walk-off double down the line that stayed in the park, but replays that cannot be reviewed show the ball was foul.

[legend]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Yes, but you get his point.

If you need a more realistic scenario, make it a walk-off double down the line that stayed in the park, but replays that cannot be reviewed show the ball was foul.

You are correct I get his point, and I agree that their is a completely different feel going into the bottom of the inning with a 1-0 game vs a 3-0 game and yes momentum would have been with the Yankees. However to say OZZY is wrong for making his comment is ALSO wrong. Because infact he is correct. Take care of business in one of the first 8 innings and maybe that call wouldn't matter at all.

[MD Longhorn]

I explained this to my 9 year old Saturday, and she got it. Umpires (should) get it much easier.

Some mistake made late in a game (whether by umpire or player or coach) is no more important than the same mistake made earlier. The umpire makes one mistake, but the Yankees failed to prevent one other run, and failed to get on base 27 other times (minus baserunning outs and DP's, I suppose).

My daughter made the last out of her game the other day, a game they lost 14-12. Her out was not the reason they lost, even though she thought so. The rest of the team made 8 other outs (3 inning game). Their defense allowed 14 runs. ONE out, ONE mistake by the umpire, ONE hit by a player, ONE coach's error in sending a runner, pinch hitting, turning in the lineup in the first place, etc... does not cause a loss.

[Publius]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Some mistake made late in a game (whether by umpire or player or coach) is no more important than the same mistake made earlier.

That's just not true. A foul ball called fair for a two-run HR in the bottom of the 1st of a V-1, H-0 game leaves the visitors 24 outs to overcome the error. That same call in the bottom of the 9th puts an L on the board. You can rationalize all you want about the things the visitors "should have done" in their nine at-bats preceding the last-inning mistake, but the timing of errors matters a great deal in terms of importance.

I always feel worse ringing a guy up on a pitch out of the zone than I do if it's a lousy call for strike one.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by legend

...I agree that their is a completely different feel going into the bottom of the inning with a 1-0 game vs a 3-0 game and yes momentum would have been with the Yankees....Take care of business in one of the first 8 innings and maybe that call wouldn't matter at all.

Yup!

Was it a bad call? Yes, obviously. Did it cost the Yankee$ the game? No, obviously.

You do have to score to win. In the 21 innings of this series so far, the Yankee$ have scored in 1 inning. That's right.. one.

In their 78 official at-bats, they have 20 strikeouts.

Yeah, the lack of "pressure" on the Detroit pitcher cost them the game. Sure, Joe. You betcha.

Will it result in expanded replay? Yeah, probably, since it happened to the Yankee$!

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Yup!

Was it a bad call? Yes, obviously. Did it cost the Yankee$ the game? No, obviously.

You do have to score to win. In the 21 innings of this series so far, the Yankee$ have scored in 1 inning. That's right.. one.

In their 78 official at-bats, they have 20 strikeouts.

Yeah, the lack of "pressure" on the Detroit pitcher cost them the game. Sure, Joe. You betcha.

Will it result in expanded replay? Yeah, probably, since it happened to the Yankee$!

No homers, no runs. Two 2 runs dingers, and solo shot last night. You would think the highest paid club by far in baseball would play harder than that. The highest paid player has to sit the bench on this team.