David Rackley

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

zm said so on the internet ... and you can't put anything on the internet if it isn't true.

Sir, given that we have just about every camera angle covered on every single game every single day, don't you think that if someone missed a base we'd have it shown to us? I recall seeing exactly one highlight of this happening - several years ago. It just doesn't happen. At the speed these guys are going, most of them would wipe out if they tried to round a bag and missed the push off. Your assertion is absurd. If you have proof, please post it. Otherwise ... meh...

So if a team has the bases loaded and a double is hit in the gap in right center, there is going to be a camera that watches every runner touch every base in every game? I don't buy it.

Speed they're going? Some of them don't run any faster than D1 players, and D1 players miss bases too.

Your assertion that MLB players don't miss bases and they go unappealed is absurd.

By the way, why don't the guys who get called out on appeal (Like the Mets guy here) "wipe out"?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by zm1283

So if a team has the bases loaded and a double is hit in the gap in right center, there is going to be a camera that watches every runner touch every base in every game? I don't buy it.

Speed they're going? Some of them don't run any faster than D1 players, and D1 players miss bases too.

Your assertion that MLB players don't miss bases and they go unappealed is absurd.

By the way, why don't the guys who get called out on appeal (Like the Mets guy here) "wipe out"?

I'm sorry, you are right. There's no way a camera would ever catch this, as they only use one or two per game. My bad.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I'm sorry, you are right. There's no way a camera would ever catch this, as they only use one or two per game. My bad.

That's weird, because I never said that a camera would never catch a runner missing a base. I said that even though there are multiple cameras at every game, there is the occasional missed base that doesn't get picked up on camera. Quit making things up.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by zm1283

That's weird, because I never said that a camera would never catch a runner missing a base. I said that even though there are multiple cameras at every game, there is the occasional missed base that doesn't get picked up on camera. Quit making things up.

I'm not - you're missing my point entirely.

My point is that IF this happens often, as you assert it does, then it would be caught on camera often - and we would see it shown on highlights often. You claim it happens all the time with no proof - if it does happen, there is proof out there - show us.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I'm not - you're missing my point entirely.

My point is that IF this happens often, as you assert it does, then it would be caught on camera often - and we would see it shown on highlights often. You claim it happens all the time with no proof - if it does happen, there is proof out there - show us.

How would there be proof of a camera not picking up a missed base? How am I supposed to prove that?

ESPN isn't going to spend time showing bases that might have been missed by a runner or runners, even if one of the cameras pick it up. They are interested in big hits, good defensive plays, and good pitching performances. Now, if it happened on a play that would win or lose a game and the cameras picked it up, then they would definitely show it.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by zm1283

ESPN isn't going to spend time showing bases that might have been missed by a runner or runners, even if one of the cameras pick it up. They are interested in big hits, good defensive plays, and good pitching performances. Now, if it happened on a play that would win or lose a game and the cameras picked it up, then they would definitely show it.

I have to agree. Nobody is going to care that a runner missed a base unless it comes at a time when it dramatically affects the outcome of the game. Why would ESPN show that under routine circumstances? It's no different than violations in other sports that always get ignored in game highlights, such as traveling and carrying in basketball, holding in football, etc. etc.

That would be an interesting case study, however. I'd be curious to know if missed bases happen in pro ball as often as they do at lower levels of the game. Probably not because there are always people watching for them from the dugouts and bullpens, like Carlos Beltran did in this game.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Manny A

I have to agree. Nobody is going to care that a runner missed a base unless it comes at a time when it dramatically affects the outcome of the game. Why would ESPN show that under routine circumstances? It's no different than violations in other sports that always get ignored in game highlights, such as traveling and carrying in basketball, holding in football, etc. etc.

That would be an interesting case study, however. I'd be curious to know if missed bases happen in pro ball as often as they do at lower levels of the game. Probably not because there are always people watching for them from the dugouts and bullpens, like Carlos Beltran did in this game.

They happen much less at the pro level, but I still maintain that they happen at times and don't get appealed.

[Tim C]

As John McSherry told us at umpire school:

"Fuxxking Steve Garvey gets paid $2 fuxxking million dollars a year and one of his fuxxking jobs is to make sure every fuxxking runner that rounds fuxxking first base touches the motherfuxxker . . . you better fuxxking see it when it fuxxking happens."

People do watch.

T

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by zm1283

That's weird, because I never said that a camera would never catch a runner missing a base. I said that even though there are multiple cameras at every game, there is the occasional missed base that doesn't get picked up on camera. Quit making things up.

Don't quote the troll.