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Old Wed Jul 11, 2012, 06:27pm
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F2 must be in his box until the time of the pitch. NFHS 1-1-4

Under OBR, F2 must be in his box until the ball leaves the pitcher's hand. OBR 4.03a
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Old Wed Jul 11, 2012, 07:42pm
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F2 must be in his box until the time of the pitch. NFHS 1-1-4

Under OBR, F2 must be in his box until the ball leaves the pitcher's hand. OBR 4.03a
As Paul Harvey would say "now for the rest of the story"

Penalty is 2.18, Ball with no runners, Balk with runners.
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Old Wed Jul 11, 2012, 08:36pm
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That's a rule that doesn't get enforced and it really shouldn't be enforced. The rule is obsolete.
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Old Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:33pm
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2-4-3 says the defensive team may request the umpire to award the batter 1st, but they are not required to do so. If they want to throw 4 pitches out of the strike zone, let them. If the pitcher or catcher commit an infraction, enforce it.
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Old Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:39pm
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2-4-3 says the defensive team may request the umpire to award the batter 1st, but they are not required to do so. If they want to throw 4 pitches out of the strike zone, let them. If the pitcher or catcher commit an infraction, enforce it.
Nothing good can come from that. Call time, ask the coach if he wants to walk him, send him down.

Half the coaches in summer ball don't know that rule.
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Old Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:58pm
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Half the coaches in summer ball don't know that rule.
Many leagues I have worked in the summer use NFHS rules with some modifications using OBR....

Most of the time when I ask "are we throwing four or just sending him down" when discussing IWs, I just get a blank stare......
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Old Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:28pm
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Nothing good can come from that. Call time, ask the coach if he wants to walk him, send him down.

Half the coaches in summer ball don't know that rule.
+1

I called a catcher's balk in a tournament one time. Never again.
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Old Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:16pm
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Half the coaches in summer ball don't know that rule.
You're generous

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Old Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:24pm
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You're generous

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You're kind. I'm just keeping Ives off my back by not saying "no coaches..."
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Old Thu Jul 12, 2012, 09:11am
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F2 must be in his box until the time of the pitch. NFHS 1-1-4

Under OBR, F2 must be in his box until the ball leaves the pitcher's hand. OBR 4.03a
OBR is enforced the same as FED - catcher can move at TOP.
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Old Thu Jul 12, 2012, 09:49am
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preventative measures

I've been taught:
A) it is a balk, but don't ever call it!
B) try to prevent it from happening. When you see the catcher setting up outside the catcher's box (if you even have one), tell him to "stay put until the pitcher tosses you the ball".

I agree with the comment that some coach read a rule, took a course or had something happen to him once upon a time, to be complaining about it.
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