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Where do you think the money comes from in the first place? Taxes! No wonder America, and it's education system is crumbling. Most can't do sixth grade math. Economics 101.
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The education system isn't crumbling at all. Respect for it, however, is. Boy, this site is SO much more fun without Jenkins around to lock things just as they get interesting. |
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I have an MA in Political Science (emphasis on political economy) and one in Criminal Justice. I work in the analysis of crime as a profession. There is no singular negative trend in juvenile crime in the last 50 years, let alone any that can be correlated with an external variable. I can also confidently state that you do not understand Keynesian economics, based off of statements you have made. Also, since God was never removed from classrooms, your argument is baseless.
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No, it's not (at least for me.) I ****ing hate it when people use irrelevant credentials to project some sort of authority in the field in which I work. Kind of akin to a stolen-valor case, in a way.
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How can you not be impressed with your own degrees? You worked hard to obtain them, didn't you? Seeing as how most people don't have a degree at all, I would think you would have some sense of pride of accomplishment. I fought through cancer radiation and chemo while continuing my Masters, knowing I faced heart surgery when I got done. Damn right I'm proud of what I accomplished. Most people I know are downright amazed at what I've gone through since last October.
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As far as the Bible in the classroom goes, compulsory reading of the Bible on a daily basis was removed, effectively removing God from the classroom. Spin it any way you want. I have also seen the statistics from that time period and going forward, and there is more than enough evidence to support my claims of a correlation, if not to juvenile crime specifically, to crime and other undesirable results: The educational standard of measure has been the SAT scores. SAT scores had been steady for many years before 1963. From 1963 they rapidly declined for 18 consecutive years, even though the same test had been used since 1941. In 1974-75 the rate of decline of the SAT scores decreased, even though they continued to decline. That was when there was an explosion of private religious schools. There were only 1000 Christian schools in 1965. Between 1974 to 1984 they increased to 32,000.
You just can't make this sh*t up.
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No-fault divorce laws had more to do with divorce increasing during the 70s and 80s. Divorce rates have been declining since the 90s and are at their lowest since the 70s as of a few years ago. Oh no! Unmarried people living together! A conservative's worst nightmare! Who cares? People are also waiting longer to get married now and have kids later now. Violent crime has actually been declining since the 80s, so I don't know how taking away prayer in schools in 1963 affects violent crime in 2012. I can't believe there are people out there that really think prayer in schools will cure all of society's ills. The funny thing is that they're the same people prattling on about the Constitution all the time, like they really care if we follow it. They want THEIR beliefs adhered to, whether they're constitutional or not. And Steve, if we're going to reinstate prayer in public schools, I assume it's okay if we include all religions? Hand out prayer mats and face Mecca in the morning...is that okay? |
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First - the educational standard of measure is NOT the SAT. The test is meant to predict the aptitude of a student - defined (by them) as the ability for an incoming student to complete college. It's historical predictive powers have been quantitatively invalid. High School grades alone have been a much more accurate predictor of whether the student will complete college. The ACT is 2nd. Demographics and income levels are a worse predictor than the ACT, but better than the SAT by orders of magnitude. Random selection comes in slightly BETTER than the SAT. Second - in the 1950's and 60's, the taking of the SAT was not standard practice by the masses. It was traditionally taken only by students who already expected to excel - those students that were headed to college. An extreme minority of the population. Average scores decreased for almost 20 years as the test began being administered to more students - and not just the top students. Over those years, as well, the students to whom it was administered grew younger (it was initially only given to exiting seniors), until we reached today's "standard" of almost every high school junior taking the test.
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Oh, and incidentally ... what the hell is a single parent family without children? I don't have the knowledge base background on this statistic that I do regarding the SAT... but the fact that they've given one percentage for single parent families, and a different one for single parent families with children, tells me the statistic is most likely completely fabricated. Care to point us to some independent verifiable source for these two numbers (and an explanation of what a parent without children could possibly mean - doesn't "parent" imply the existence of children???)
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Steve, if you're going to make these outlandish claims, back them up. Don't go running once you get called on it. Also, no one said that you shouldn't feel good about your hard work in getting a degree. (Although I hardly think an MBA qualifies you as an economist, but that's just me) Finally, the "hostility" toward Christians comes from Christians wanting things both ways. You never told me if praying to Mecca in public schools would be okay. Christians want us to adhere to the Constitution, but when we do, it sometimes goes against what they want, then they don't care as much about the Constitution anymore. Did you ever think that a lot of people are disagreeing with you because what you posted is ridiculous? |
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