Shortstop throws warmup pitch

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by DG

A difference between FED and OBR in the substitution rule, but when did ball become dead?

The ball becomes dead at the end of each half inning, when the defense can no longer put a player out (5-2-2).

I don't much care who takes the warmups. After 5, we're going with whoever's on the mound.

[lawump]

Originally Posted by mbyron

The ball becomes dead at the end of each half inning, when the defense can no longer put a player out (5-2-2).

Oh God, this sentence brings back painful memories of the 10-page thread (slight exaggeration) we had 5 years ago (or so) on whether or not the ball became dead between innings under OBR.

[RPatrino]

I was thinking that exact same thing!! What a thread that was.

[Eastshire]

The rule is 3-1-1 not 3-3-1. It's also not relevant as the shortstop is not a substitute under 2-36-1 as he is not eligible to replace another player in the lineup as he's already in the lineup. The relevant rule instead is 2-28-1:

"The pitcher is the player who is designated in the lineup as being responsible for delivering (pitching) the ball to the batter."

Ironically, there doesn't seem to be a proscribed method for changing the designation.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by lawump

Oh God, this sentence brings back painful memories of the 10-page thread (slight exaggeration) we had 5 years ago (or so) on whether or not the ball became dead between innings under OBR.

I know dat's right.

I think the ball would become officially dead when the defense has left the field, and no longer has the opportunity to appeal at the end of a half inning.

[RPatrino]

What I do, is as soon as all the defensive players have left the field, I loudly yell, "TIME".....

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

What I do, is as soon as all the defensive players have left the field, I loudly yell, "TIME".....

Wayne and Garth had it right in Wayne's World: yell "game on" and "game off" any time their street hockey game was interrupted.

[DG]

After reviewing all posts, rules and the BRD it appears this is a difference between OBR/NCAA and FED. OBR does not make a live ball distinction, FED does. Original post was about a FED game.

Should make an interresting conversation if SS comes out and takes 5 warmup pitches and then defensive coach wants someone else to pitch, who should get 8, right, since ball was not live SS was just fooling around.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by DG

After reviewing all posts, rules and the BRD it appears this is a difference between OBR/NCAA and FED. OBR does not make a live ball distinction, FED does. Original post was about a FED game.

Should make an interresting conversation if SS comes out and takes 5 warmup pitches and then defensive coach wants someone else to pitch, who should get 8, right, since ball was not live SS was just fooling around.

First, if the ball is not dead in OBR, why do umpires start each half inning with "Play!"?

Second, no matter who's goofing around on the mound the "pitcher" gets 60-90 seconds to warm up.