Brett Lawrie throws helmet at Miller

[jwwashburn]

I did not call you a name.

If I leave a plasma screen tv on my porch and go out to a fish fry, I have taken an action that might very well cause the tv to be stolen. A person that steals that TV is still a bad guy who should be punished.

That is an analogy.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

I did not call you a name.

If I leave a plasma screen tv on my porch and go out to a fish fry, I have taken an action that might very well cause the tv to be stolen. A person that steals that TV is still a bad guy who should be punished.

That is an analogy.

An inaccurate one at that.

I'll use slower key strokes this time. There was no action by the umpire that can be used, in any way, to justify or explain away the actions of the players. He owns them. He initiated them. To try to put any responsibility on the umpire is to display a tremendous misunderstanding of personal accountability.

The umpire did not create an attractive nuisance. He did not leave his door unlocked. He did not leave a window open, he did not leave a TV on the porch. He was doing his job. Thankfully, MLB understands the danger of allowing a player ANY excuse, reason, rationale or justification for making contact with an umpire.

[jwwashburn]

He was not doing his job when he called strike 3 on ball 4 and did so on purpose.

This is why the batter went nuts. That is a reason, not an excuse. The umpire created the situation...the batter reacted in a completely inappropriate manner and should certainly be sanctioned for his inexcusable action.

Of course, the umpire should be sanctioned, as well. I also think it should be a public act.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

He was not doing his job when he called strike 3 on ball 4 and did so on purpose.

This is why the batter went nuts. That is a reason, not an excuse. The umpire created the situation...the batter reacted in a completely inappropriate manner and should certainly be sanctioned for his inexcusable action.

Of course, the umpire should be sanctioned, as well. I also think it should be a public act.

He should be sanctioned for a missed pitch? Really???

Peace

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

He should be sanctioned for a missed pitch? Really???

Peace

Exactly, Jeff. But only after being physically attacked. After all, he started it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Exactly, Jeff. But only after being physically attacked. After all, he started it.

What cracks me up is do these people realize that if they missed a call, they would be rather upset if they were suspended over one missed call? We have technology that shows these things (and they have been proven to not be accurate as well) to show these things. But when many famous MLB Pitchers were in the game, no one hardly said a word if that pitcher go that pitch called a strike. I just do not get this self-righteousness over something that I am sure if we all had our game broken down that way, we would have at least one pitch no in that little computer zone.

Peace

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

He was not doing his job when he called strike 3 on ball 4 and did so on purpose.

This is why the batter went nuts. That is a reason, not an excuse. The umpire created the situation...the batter reacted in a completely inappropriate manner and should certainly be sanctioned for his inexcusable action.

Of course, the umpire should be sanctioned, as well. I also think it should be a public act.

I'm sorry. I deal with reality and facts not suppositions.

It's okay to disagree. You can believe that umpires are subject to violence as a direct result of their calls.

I don't. Thankfully, MLB doesn't.

Enjoy your evening. Moving on, now.

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

I'm sorry. I deal with reality and facts not suppositions.

It's okay to disagree. You can believe that umpires are subject to violence as a direct result of their calls.

I don't. Thankfully, MLB doesn't.

Enjoy your evening. Moving on, now.

I said what I said. I did not say what you said I believe.

The batter was completely wrong and should be suspended. The fact that the batter's actions were completely wrong does not negate the fact that the umpire's action set up the situation.

[REFANDUMP]

If I missed pitches that badly, I wouldn't be doing high school or college games. Why MLB allows that, I have no clue. These umpires need to be held to a higher standard. Disgraceful !!!

[CT1]

Originally Posted by REFANDUMP

If I missed pitches that badly, I wouldn't be doing high school or college games. Why MLB allows that, I have no clue. These umpires need to be held to a higher standard. Disgraceful !!!

Does your HS/college group have a union?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by REFANDUMP

If I missed pitches that badly, I wouldn't be doing high school or college games. Why MLB allows that, I have no clue. These umpires need to be held to a higher standard. Disgraceful !!!

Give me a break. If you did not call the 5th pitch a strike at some point, your games will take much longer at the HS level I can guarantee you that one. That might be the closest you would get in many HS games to the outside corner.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

He was not doing his job when he called strike 3 on ball 4 and did so on purpose.

This is why the batter went nuts. That is a reason, not an excuse. The umpire created the situation...the batter reacted in a completely inappropriate manner and should certainly be sanctioned for his inexcusable action.

Of course, the umpire should be sanctioned, as well. I also think it should be a public act.

I'm glad you're in Miller's head.

[Steven Tyler]

Hmmmmmm, I smell a little bromance in the air..................