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Old Thu May 03, 2012, 02:16pm
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This is why the 90 degree angle mechanic can be flawed big time.

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Old Thu May 03, 2012, 02:21pm
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This is why the 90 degree angle mechanic can be flawed big time.

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He *wasn't* 90 degrees, though. He was considerably more than 90 degrees.
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Old Thu May 03, 2012, 02:47pm
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He *wasn't* 90 degrees, though. He was considerably more than 90 degrees.
I do not have a goniometer to know what actual degree he was in relationship to the bag. All I know if he was closer to the line, he would have seen clearly the foot being off the bag. He took his angle away and obviously seem to assume this was routine in nature.

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Old Thu May 03, 2012, 02:53pm
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He looks to be about 45 degrees to me. Had he read the throw and adjusted better he could have gotten into a better position. But I also agree that 2-3 steps fair here would've been a much better angle.
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Old Thu May 03, 2012, 03:00pm
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He looks to be about 45 degrees to me. Had he read the throw and adjusted better he could have gotten into a better position. But I also agree that 2-3 steps fair here would've been a much better angle.
If straight-lined, he would be 180°.
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If straight-lined, he would be 180°.
He's 180° to the fielder but not the throw.
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Old Thu May 03, 2012, 03:11pm
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He's 180° to the fielder but not the throw.
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Old Thu May 03, 2012, 03:40pm
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If I'm asked, I always check with the plate umpire. My goal is to get the play right.
Even if you know you're 100% right?

If so, that's not good umpiring.
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Old Thu May 03, 2012, 03:49pm
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If I'm asked, I always check with the plate umpire. My goal is to get the play right.
Always?

If that is the goal, why would you always ask the PU for help? What makes you think they see the game or angle that you do? And even if they see it, certainly does not mean they are right either. And we cannot compare what we do to what they do at the MLB.

And as said, coaches want things their way, they are not looking for what is right or correct based on the actual call.

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Come on Steve, are'nt you busy enough already?
I do have a full plate keeping you in line, I must admit!
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Old Thu May 03, 2012, 07:04pm
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From somebody else..."Read Step"
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Keep an eye on the news, he may even have a comment about it.
If he does, he will blame the miss on Bush.
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Old Thu May 03, 2012, 10:07pm
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I do not have a goniometer to know what actual degree he was in relationship to the bag. All I know if he was closer to the line, he would have seen clearly the foot being off the bag. He took his angle away and obviously seem to assume this was routine in nature.

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And then would miss a play where the foot was pulled off to the front of the base.

No position is the perfect one for all situations and all positions can be improved by taking a read step when necessary.
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Old Thu May 03, 2012, 11:12pm
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We've all missed reasonably close calls. A call missed this bad at the major league level, FIRED TOMORROW !!! INEXCUSABLE !!!
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