Twins at Tampa Bay

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I don't follow the logic here. The home team expects even fans of their opponents to give the right of way to the home team when it reaches into the fans' domain to attempt a play? If I am a Twins fan, I am going to try to knock the ball out the player's hand who is invading my space, as is my right as a fan. The player is trying to take my souvenir away, and he's going to have to fight me for it. Rays fans may wish to part the Red Sea for their players, that's their prerogative, but you can't legislate or mandate it when it goes against the playing rules of baseball.

Acting drunk or disorderly is not against the playing rules of baseball, but a ballpark can certainly legislate or mandate that you not do it or be removed from the park. The assertion that the ballpark has no authority over it's fans other than those proscribed in the rulebook that rules the game they are watching is asinine.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Acting drunk or disorderly is not against the playing rules of baseball, but a ballpark can certainly legislate or mandate that you not do it or be removed from the park. The assertion that the ballpark has no authority over it's fans other than those proscribed in the rulebook that rules the game they are watching is asinine.

Now you are comparing apples to onions. The fan was acting within his rights as a fan, not acting drunk and disorderly. Another leap in logic, and nothing in my post said that the ballpark cannot exercise its authority over violations of the law. However, Geiger did nothing at all illegal. Perhaps someone pointed that out, and is why he was later readmitted to the game.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Now you are comparing apples to onions. The fan was acting within his rights as a fan, not acting drunk and disorderly. Another leap in logic, and nothing in my post said that the ballpark cannot exercise its authority over violations of the law. However, Geiger did nothing at all illegal. Perhaps someone pointed that out, and is why he was later readmitted to the game.

Not a leap in logic at all. If they have posted a rule that says you can't interfere with play, EVEN IF ON THE FAN'S SIDE OF THE FENCE, then you can't interfere with play on the fan's side of the fence. None of this has anything to do with baseball's OBR.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Not a leap in logic at all. If they have posted a rule that says you can't interfere with play, EVEN IF ON THE FAN'S SIDE OF THE FENCE, then you can't interfere with play on the fan's side of the fence. None of this has anything to do with baseball's OBR.

But it's the rules that define what interference is - and this isn't it because there is no interference on the fan's side of the fence.