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Old Sun Apr 22, 2012, 07:00pm
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The video shows the play, then Leyland arguing and then the replay.

Leyland or someone in the dugout knew it hit the batter....how could none of the four umps have seen it. I guess it is possible he made it up and happened to be right but, you gotta think he knew it hit the batter.

The homer Texas announcer must have been looking at a different replay.

What do you guys think?
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Old Sun Apr 22, 2012, 07:07pm
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Look at the quote from the batter
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Old Sun Apr 22, 2012, 07:08pm
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You have to watch the video several times or be sitting where Leyland was. Unfortunately not one of the officials got to watch the replay OR sit where Leyland was... **** Happens.
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Old Sun Apr 22, 2012, 07:14pm
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Leyland was in the third base dugout-BEHIND the batter.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2012, 07:31pm
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More calls for instant replay

Lots of plays near the plate being missed early in the season.

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Old Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:02pm
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I am still shaking my head and confused how four umpires missed it and the manager in the 3rd base dugout could see it.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:05pm
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I am still shaking my head and confused how four umpires missed it and the manager in the 3rd base dugout could see it.
Are you an umpire?

This is a very, very difficult call to make. The plate guy has *no* chance of seeing this. The other 3 umpires are over 100 feet away. The fielder charging probably had the best look at it and Leyland read his player's reaction.

I'm not going to blame anyone. I've been in this exact same situation and, well, **** happens.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2012, 07:43pm
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Are you an umpire?

This is a very, very difficult call to make. The plate guy has *no* chance of seeing this. The other 3 umpires are over 100 feet away. The fielder charging probably had the best look at it and Leyland read his player's reaction.

I'm not going to blame anyone. I've been in this exact same situation and, well, **** happens.
Exactly. The only reason the coach argues is because it went against his team.
I don't think he saw it hit the runner at all - I think he was just arguing.

From the reaction of the other players I don't think they could tell if it hit him or not either. The pitcher is right there and he did nothing but field the ball, and it looks like F5 is just pointing for him to throw home, not that the ball hit the batter.

Plays like this just happen in baseball.

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Sh*t, I had to watch 5 times and then really look hard at the slow motion closeup shot before I saw it hit his foot. Looked like a good bunt up until then.
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Old Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:20am
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Sh*t, I had to watch 5 times and then really look hard at the slow motion closeup shot before I saw it hit his foot. Looked like a good bunt up until then.
If I'm remembering correctly, it went off his thigh.
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Old Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:26am
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No wonder I didn't see it hit him then!
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Are you an umpire?
He might not have stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, but he did cross a picket line. Does that count?
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I believe it went off of his knee.

There's no way the PU could see it and 2B was straight-lined. The batter didn't seem to give any indication he was hit. I couldn't tell there was a problem until I saw the replay from the 1B side media well.
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Old Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:46pm
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He might not have stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, but he did cross a picket line. Does that count?
For the record(for other folks, Steven, you enjoy being wrong), There was no picket line.

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Old Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:48pm
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Are you an umpire?

This is a very, very difficult call to make. The plate guy has *no* chance of seeing this. The other 3 umpires are over 100 feet away. The fielder charging probably had the best look at it and Leyland read his player's reaction.

I'm not going to blame anyone. I've been in this exact same situation and, well, **** happens.
Why, yes, I am.

I am not saying the crew screwed up. I am just curious how four guys could not see what a 127 year old manager could see from behind the play. He might have reacted to his fielder but, he seemed to be out there mighty quickly.
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