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jwwashburn Sun Apr 22, 2012 07:00pm

Tex at Det Disputed Squeeze
 
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The video shows the play, then Leyland arguing and then the replay.

Leyland or someone in the dugout knew it hit the batter....how could none of the four umps have seen it. I guess it is possible he made it up and happened to be right but, you gotta think he knew it hit the batter.

The homer Texas announcer must have been looking at a different replay.

What do you guys think?

jwwashburn Sun Apr 22, 2012 07:07pm

Look at the quote from the batter

jicecone Sun Apr 22, 2012 07:08pm

You have to watch the video several times or be sitting where Leyland was. Unfortunately not one of the officials got to watch the replay OR sit where Leyland was... **** Happens.

jwwashburn Sun Apr 22, 2012 07:14pm

Leyland was in the third base dugout-BEHIND the batter.

SAump Mon Apr 23, 2012 07:31pm

More calls for instant replay
 
Lots of plays near the plate being missed early in the season.

Blown call sours end of Rangers-Tigers series - Yahoo! Sports

jwwashburn Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:02pm

I am still shaking my head and confused how four umpires missed it and the manager in the 3rd base dugout could see it.

Rich Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:05pm

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Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 838682)
I am still shaking my head and confused how four umpires missed it and the manager in the 3rd base dugout could see it.

Are you an umpire?

This is a very, very difficult call to make. The plate guy has *no* chance of seeing this. The other 3 umpires are over 100 feet away. The fielder charging probably had the best look at it and Leyland read his player's reaction.

I'm not going to blame anyone. I've been in this exact same situation and, well, **** happens.

David B Tue Apr 24, 2012 07:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by GROUPthink (Post 838683)
Are you an umpire?

This is a very, very difficult call to make. The plate guy has *no* chance of seeing this. The other 3 umpires are over 100 feet away. The fielder charging probably had the best look at it and Leyland read his player's reaction.

I'm not going to blame anyone. I've been in this exact same situation and, well, **** happens.

Exactly. The only reason the coach argues is because it went against his team.
I don't think he saw it hit the runner at all - I think he was just arguing.

From the reaction of the other players I don't think they could tell if it hit him or not either. The pitcher is right there and he did nothing but field the ball, and it looks like F5 is just pointing for him to throw home, not that the ball hit the batter.

Plays like this just happen in baseball.

Thanks
David

SanDiegoSteve Tue Apr 24, 2012 09:29pm

Sh*t, I had to watch 5 times and then really look hard at the slow motion closeup shot before I saw it hit his foot. Looked like a good bunt up until then.

yawetag Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:20am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 838745)
Sh*t, I had to watch 5 times and then really look hard at the slow motion closeup shot before I saw it hit his foot. Looked like a good bunt up until then.

If I'm remembering correctly, it went off his thigh.

SanDiegoSteve Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:26am

No wonder I didn't see it hit him then!

Steven Tyler Wed Apr 25, 2012 01:25am

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Originally Posted by GROUPthink (Post 838683)
Are you an umpire?

He might not have stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, but he did cross a picket line. Does that count?

nopachunts Wed Apr 25, 2012 08:20am

I believe it went off of his knee.

There's no way the PU could see it and 2B was straight-lined. The batter didn't seem to give any indication he was hit. I couldn't tell there was a problem until I saw the replay from the 1B side media well.

jwwashburn Wed Apr 25, 2012 03:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler (Post 838758)
He might not have stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, but he did cross a picket line. Does that count?

For the record(for other folks, Steven, you enjoy being wrong), There was no picket line.

I did, however gladly and willingly work Minor League games when asked.

jwwashburn Wed Apr 25, 2012 03:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by GROUPthink (Post 838683)
Are you an umpire?

This is a very, very difficult call to make. The plate guy has *no* chance of seeing this. The other 3 umpires are over 100 feet away. The fielder charging probably had the best look at it and Leyland read his player's reaction.

I'm not going to blame anyone. I've been in this exact same situation and, well, **** happens.

Why, yes, I am.

I am not saying the crew screwed up. I am just curious how four guys could not see what a 127 year old manager could see from behind the play. He might have reacted to his fielder but, he seemed to be out there mighty quickly.


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