Tex at Det Disputed Squeeze

[Rich]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

I am still shaking my head and confused how four umpires missed it and the manager in the 3rd base dugout could see it.

Are you an umpire?

This is a very, very difficult call to make. The plate guy has *no* chance of seeing this. The other 3 umpires are over 100 feet away. The fielder charging probably had the best look at it and Leyland read his player's reaction.

I'm not going to blame anyone. I've been in this exact same situation and, well, **** happens.

[David B]

Originally Posted by GROUPthink

Are you an umpire?

This is a very, very difficult call to make. The plate guy has *no* chance of seeing this. The other 3 umpires are over 100 feet away. The fielder charging probably had the best look at it and Leyland read his player's reaction.

I'm not going to blame anyone. I've been in this exact same situation and, well, **** happens.

Exactly. The only reason the coach argues is because it went against his team.
I don't think he saw it hit the runner at all - I think he was just arguing.

From the reaction of the other players I don't think they could tell if it hit him or not either. The pitcher is right there and he did nothing but field the ball, and it looks like F5 is just pointing for him to throw home, not that the ball hit the batter.

Plays like this just happen in baseball.

Thanks
David

[SanDiegoSteve]

Sh*t, I had to watch 5 times and then really look hard at the slow motion closeup shot before I saw it hit his foot. Looked like a good bunt up until then.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Sh*t, I had to watch 5 times and then really look hard at the slow motion closeup shot before I saw it hit his foot. Looked like a good bunt up until then.

If I'm remembering correctly, it went off his thigh.

[SanDiegoSteve]

No wonder I didn't see it hit him then!

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by GROUPthink

Are you an umpire?

He might not have stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, but he did cross a picket line. Does that count?

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

He might not have stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, but he did cross a picket line. Does that count?

For the record(for other folks, Steven, you enjoy being wrong), There was no picket line.

I did, however gladly and willingly work Minor League games when asked.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

For the record(for other folks, Steven, you enjoy being wrong), There was no picket line.

I did, however gladly and willingly work Minor League games when asked.

And you were only asked when the MiLB umpires were on strike. That in modern day lingo, qualifies you to be called a scab, picket line or not.

I wonder how far down the list they went before your name came up? You can't go much lower in my opinion.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

And you were only asked when the MiLB umpires were on strike. That in modern day lingo, qualifies you to be called a scab, picket line or not.

I wonder how far down the list they went before your name came up? You can't go much lower in my opinion.

Well, I look on the bright side, at least he's not you! How do you keep from being banned for harassing, inflammatory, and insulting posts?

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Well, I look on the bright side, at least he's not you! How do you keep from being banned for harassing, inflammatory, and insulting posts?

Whatever! Feel free to throw your over exaggerated insults to me.

Personally if you want to scab, you should have to take all the little perks that go along the trade.

Travel all night to get to your next destination.

Eat crappy leftover food from the concession stand.

Stay in fleabag hotels.

Do your own laundry.

Work for the low wages provided. Etc, etc, etc.

It's easy when all you have to do is show up at the ballpark. Go home to a home cooked meal. Somebody does your laundry. Sleep in your own bed. Etc, etc, etc.

I'm sure that there were probably a great many others that were asked to scab, but chose not too out of respect for the profession. It amazed me how a few wannabes would do such things, when it was basically just a bunch of young kids wanting to earn something of a better wage and per diem.

Take off the training wheels, Steve. You're beginning to sound childish in your replies to me. Time to ride like a big boy for once.

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Whatever! Feel free to throw your over exaggerated insults to me.

Personally if you want to scab, you should have to take all the little perks that go along the trade.

Travel all night to get to your next destination.

Eat crappy leftover food from the concession stand.

Stay in fleabag hotels.

Do your own laundry.

Work for the low wages provided. Etc, etc, etc.

It's easy when all you have to do is show up at the ballpark. Go home to a home cooked meal. Somebody does your laundry. Sleep in your own bed. Etc, etc, etc.

I'm sure that there were probably a great many others that were asked to scab, but chose not too out of respect for the profession. It amazed me how a few wannabes would do such things, when it was basically just a bunch of young kids wanting to earn something of a better wage and per diem.

Take off the training wheels, Steve. You're beginning to sound childish in your replies to me. Time to ride like a big boy for once.

Steven,

Your disdain for me makes me proud. If you liked me , I would hate myself.

Joe

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by GROUPthink

Are you an umpire?

This is a very, very difficult call to make. The plate guy has *no* chance of seeing this. The other 3 umpires are over 100 feet away. The fielder charging probably had the best look at it and Leyland read his player's reaction.

I'm not going to blame anyone. I've been in this exact same situation and, well, **** happens.

Why, yes, I am.

I am not saying the crew screwed up. I am just curious how four guys could not see what a 127 year old manager could see from behind the play. He might have reacted to his fielder but, he seemed to be out there mighty quickly.

[johnnyg08]

Tough to tell at live speed. Some of you forget how easy it is to tell from the replay. They're making these calls live. There's no way any umpire sees this for 100% except the plate umpire.