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Old Sun Apr 22, 2012, 02:45pm
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"As I am doing so the assistant coach intercepts me and tells me that it is bullsh*t that I am not going to let them sit outside the dugout." (PLACE EJECTION HERE)

Is there some local rule that prohibits jewelry? If not, what's wrong with wearing jewelry?

HIM: "Why didn't you make that call at third?"

YOU: "With the bases loaded I'm at home. Not my call."

Hey, the base umpire makes the calls on the bases, hence the name. Managers, coaches, players, fans, etc. should not be allowed to give input on umpire mechanics. They see a 1st to 3rd rotation or a R2 tag up, and all of a sudden they get it in their heads that the plate umpire has 3rd all the time.

My old assignor would send me to these leagues with the instruction to clean house.
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Old Sun Apr 22, 2012, 03:17pm
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I think you did a great job. You had a tough assignment and you were effectively working alone. If I was the assignor, I would not hesitate to put you on that game again. Nice work.
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Old Sun Apr 22, 2012, 05:04pm
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By the way, I never warn in pre-game, I never tell them where to sit in pre-game, what to wear, who I talk to. That is a given. My pre-games last 3 minutes tops. If you have to warn in pre-game then you are setting yourself up to be tested from the get-go.
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Old Sun Apr 22, 2012, 08:23pm
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by the way, i never warn in pre-game, i never tell them where to sit in pre-game, what to wear, who i talk to. That is a given. My pre-games last 3 minutes tops. If you have to warn in pre-game then you are setting yourself up to be tested from the get-go.
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Old Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:04pm
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The last time I was in a game where I was sent to be an enforcer ended up forfeited after I tossed the away coach (the only coach) and a number of players within seconds of each other over an incident that started with the coach not accepting the fact that he had made two trips and escalated when he said as he turned away from me while discussing that I am making all this money I should learn the rules. The pitcher was next to leave as he said I could not make him leave the mound, and it snow balled from there. They had a big lead at the time, which made it all the more puzzling.

My partner, a very experienced partner who was not involved in any of the discussion or ejections, called it in to assignor to tell him what he saw while I was changing clothes and assignor told him that he had been warned about the away team's behavior and especially the coach and that whomever works their next game needed to be alerted. He said he looked at who was scheduled and decided we would take care of whatever came up and did not bother to call. I would rather have been told, but it worked out the same anyway.

I agree with many of the other poster's comments, except I am not doing a pre-game warning with coaches. And, if an ejected asst coach will not leave, and the HC can not get him to leave then I am not worrying the cops with it, game over. That situation was the other forfeit in my career except it was HC who would not leave and asst could not convince him to do so.

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Old Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:33pm
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"As I am doing so the assistant coach intercepts me and tells me that it is bullsh*t that I am not going to let them sit outside the dugout." (PLACE EJECTION HERE)

Is there some local rule that prohibits jewelry? If not, what's wrong with wearing jewelry?

HIM: "Why didn't you make that call at third?"

YOU: "With the bases loaded I'm at home. Not my call."

Hey, the base umpire makes the calls on the bases, hence the name. Managers, coaches, players, fans, etc. should not be allowed to give input on umpire mechanics. They see a 1st to 3rd rotation or a R2 tag up, and all of a sudden they get it in their heads that the plate umpire has 3rd all the time.

My old assignor would send me to these leagues with the instruction to clean house.
I'm scared to be on the same forum as you are.

Really.
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Old Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:38pm
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OP Friend, you were screwed, ready to be blued and ultimately assuredly tattooed. Sometimes you are faced with a no win situation.

Pre-game, no pre-game, it probably would have made no difference.

As you wander along your officiating career, hopefully, you will find a kindly Game Assignor who will take pity upon you and assign you to games being played by those whose hearts are filled with tons of joy and love instead of riddled with trash and feces.

My advice? If your Assignor will not protect you from such disgraceful baboons, then hire a honeypot, send her to his favorite bar, take videos of them after they depart...and frame him the lousy buttclown.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2012, 09:44am
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Is there some local rule that prohibits jewelry? If not, what's wrong with wearing jewelry?
FWIW, every youth league I've ever worked for has had a local rule prohibiting jewelry.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2012, 09:55am
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I think most youth leagues with a national presence prohibit jewelry in their national rules.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2012, 10:23am
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FWIW, every youth league I've ever worked for has had a local rule prohibiting jewelry.
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I think most youth leagues with a national presence prohibit jewelry in their national rules.
Oh. The OP said "OBR" rules. That is misleading. It was "modified OBR" rules then. Thanks for clearing this up.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2012, 10:54am
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Oh. The OP said "OBR" rules. That is misleading. It was "modified OBR" rules then. Thanks for clearing this up.
Come on Steve. When speaking of 14U what do you think is most likely going to be the case?
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2012, 11:28am
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Come on Steve. When speaking of 14U what do you think is most likely going to be the case?
I'm sorry, I forgot to put up my sarcasm sign. My bad.

It has been awhile since I worked youth leagues, but I don't recall jewelry being brought up at any plate conferences. Only in FED games, where jewelry was a major point of emphasis in my plate conferences.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2012, 11:44am
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I'm sorry, I forgot to put up my sarcasm sign. My bad.
It was read loud and clear, I just don't see the point in even mentioning it.
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