Run up to tag up?

voiceoflg · #1 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 06, 2012, 10:28pm

A fan asked me this. Apparently some mistake us broadcasters for rules experts.

Runner on third, less than 2 out. Fly ball to right and the right fielder has a good arm. If the runner on third were to go a few steps toward second and get a running start to third, then tag third and head for home after the right fielder catches the ball, would that be legal? Instead of leaving from a dead stop, R3 would have momentum going and step on third just as RF catches the ball.

I said I had no idea but would find out. What say you?

SanDiegoSteve · #2 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 06, 2012, 10:55pm

No.

Rich Ives · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 06, 2012, 11:20pm

No - he cannot.

Per the Officia Baseball Rules used by pros and just about every youth organization in the country:

7.10 Any runner shall be called out, on appeal, when—
(a) After a fly ball is caught, he fails to retouch his original base before he or his original base is tagged;
Rule 7.10(a) Comment: “Retouch,” in this rule, means to tag up and start from a contact with the base after the ball is caught. A runner is not permitted to take a flying start from a position in back of his base.

For High Schoool Rules:

8-4 ART. 2 . . . Any runner is out when he:
o. positions himself behind a base to get a running start;

mbyron · #4 (**permalink**) Sat Apr 07, 2012, 07:46am

The out for that is like passing a runner: live ball, defense can record other outs, right?

voiceoflg · #5 (**permalink**) Sat Apr 07, 2012, 08:40am

The was asked at a high school (FED) game, so I assume he meant for those rules, though I didn't specify in the original post.

Thanks, all!

Rich Ives · #6 (**permalink**) Sat Apr 07, 2012, 09:59am

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Originally Posted by mbyron

The out for that is like passing a runner: live ball, defense can record other outs, right?

Yes.

It's a rare out that creates a dead ball. Interference is about the only one.

yawetag · #7 (**permalink**) Sat Apr 07, 2012, 10:20am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

No.

©yawetag, 2012

umpjim · #8 (**permalink**) Sat Apr 07, 2012, 12:06pm

I've always thought that this was an appeal play. Looks like it's not in FED. Off to peruse the BRD for more info.

umpjim · #9 (**permalink**) Sat Apr 07, 2012, 12:11pm

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Originally Posted by umpjim

I've always thought that this was an appeal play. Looks like it's not in FED. Off to peruse the BRD for more info.

Thanks to searchable EBRD, Out on appeal in OBR, NCAA, immediate out with live ball in FED.

PaREF · #10 (**permalink**) Sat Apr 07, 2012, 02:52pm

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Apparently some mistake us broadcasters for rules experts.

Unfortunately some broadcasters mistake themselves for rules experts.

SanDiegoSteve · #11 (**permalink**) Sat Apr 07, 2012, 03:06pm

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Originally Posted by yawetag

©yawetag, 2012

Okay...what's my fine?

yawetag · #12 (**permalink**) Sat Apr 07, 2012, 03:37pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Okay...what's my fine?

The name of a good restaurant for my wife and I when we're in SD in early-May.

SanDiegoSteve · #13 (**permalink**) Sat Apr 07, 2012, 04:04pm

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Originally Posted by yawetag

The name of a good restaurant for my wife and I when we're in SD in early-May.

What kind of cuisine?

dash_riprock · #14 (**permalink**) Sat Apr 07, 2012, 04:19pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

What kind of cuisine?

How about the cheapest Fugu in town?

yawetag · #15 (**permalink**) Sat Apr 07, 2012, 05:15pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

What kind of cuisine?

Italian or steaks would be best. Not a big fan of seafood. However, if you've got a good idea, let me know -- I'd like to have one night of a nice dinner.