NFHS Batter interference

[rbmartin]

FED rules.. Runner on 2nd attempting to steal 3rd. Batter interferes with catcher throwing to 3rd. Throw is unsucessful.

Who is out?

[David B]

That's one that is good to know and remember because it is often misapplied.
Its listed in section 7-3-5 with ruling under the penalty.

With two outs batter always out. With less than two out batter is out and runners return. Only exception would be if a runner is attempting home etc,

This is a rule that I have seen misapplied several times each season, many times even by veteran umpires. I messed it up once "long time ago", but since have memorized it and am glad I have.

Thanks
David

[Chris Viverito]

I have the batter out in this one. The ball is dead and R2 is returned to 2d.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by David B

That's one that is good to know and remember because it is often misapplied.
Its listed in section 7-3-5 with ruling under the penalty.

With two outs batter always out. With less than two out batter is out and runners return. Only exception would be if a runner is attempting home etc,

This is a rule that I have seen misapplied several times each season, many times even by veteran umpires. I messed it up once "long time ago", but since have memorized it and am glad I have.

Thanks
David

David the runner for this sit is on second, not third.

Batter is out, return runner to second.

[CT1]

Punish the guilty & don't let his team profit. Batter out, runner returns.

[David B]

Originally Posted by jicecone

David the runner for this sit is on second, not third.

Batter is out, return runner to second.

I guess i just quoted the rule and not where to put the runners.

He didn't say the outs, but in this sitch it doesn't matter - by rule the BR is out and all runners return which in this case sends the runner back to second.

There I clarified.

Thanks
David

[David B]

Originally Posted by CT1

Punish the guilty & don't let his team profit. Batter out, runner returns.

but the exception often causes the problem which is what happened in the playoff game I had in 1984 where we blew it.

That is with runner attempting home, (with less than two outs)

then you don't punish the guilty which is what we did. I was young umpire then and I went along with PU who said BR was out. The game was tied, and then on the next pitch BR hits grounder to SS and winning run scores.

Still sticks in my mind because we cost them a chance to go to the state finals that year.

But lesson was learned and never misapplied again (at least in my games)

Thanks
David

[Mrumpiresir]

Think of it this way. The guy who interferes is always out. In the case of batter interference with the catcher, the batter is out except for three instances.

1. the throw retires the runner so the interference is ignored;
2. the runner is attempting to score with less than two outs;
3. the batter is already out so we get a second out on the play.

[dileonardoja]

Originally Posted by David B

but the exception often causes the problem which is what happened in the playoff game I had in 1984 where we blew it.

That is with runner attempting home, (with less than two outs)

then you don't punish the guilty which is what we did. I was young umpire then and I went along with PU who said BR was out. The game was tied, and then on the next pitch BR hits grounder to SS and winning run scores.

Still sticks in my mind because we cost them a chance to go to the state finals that year.

But lesson was learned and never misapplied again (at least in my games)

Thanks
David

No protest?

[David B]

Originally Posted by dileonardoja

No protest?

1984 there was no such thing as a protest.... that was the good ole days ...

and neither coach complained, they didn't know the rule either ...

Thanks
David

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by David B

1984 there was no such thing as a protest.... that was the good ole days ...

and neither coach complained, they didn't know the rule either ...

Thanks
David

And still not in some states.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

And still not in some states.

*raises hand halfway up*

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by yawetag

*raises hand halfway up*

Put that hand down... move along... nothing to see here.