"Starter" Mask

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Depends on what fits you. I have tried the Diamond lightweight mask on, and while it is very light and is a nice mask, I hated the way it fit me. I thought it was hard to see out of personally. I had a low-profile Titanium and loved it, and sold it and got a standard profile Titanium and really like it so far.

Whatever floats your boat. If you don't like the fit, then that mask is not for you. You were wise to get rid of the low-profile (aka new view) mask. They don't work well with 6 or 8 stitch hats (I refuse to wear a combo hat) and, more importantly, when you take one to the mask, they transfer energy to your face rather than deflecting it.

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

You were wise to get rid of the low-profile (aka new view) mask. They don't work well with 6 or 8 stitch hats (I refuse to wear a combo hat) and, more importantly, when you take one to the mask, they transfer energy to your face rather than deflecting it.

Dash, the Diamond mask you recommended earlier- is it the DFM-UMP model? They are as light as a feather, but all of the product descriptions I see for it describe it as a "low-profile mask".

Is it just not as low as others? Are the product descriptions misleading? Are you talking about a different model than the DFM-UMP?

I'm in the market for a new mask and am really curious about this. The thing that's been keeping me from pulling the trigger on the DFM-UMP is that all of the advertising literature for it says it's a low-profile design.

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by BretMan

Dash, the Diamond mask you recommended earlier- is it the DFM-UMP model? They are as light as a feather, but all of the product descriptions I see for it describe it as a "low-profile mask".

Is it just not as low as others? Are the product descriptions misleading? Are you talking about a different model than the DFM-UMP?

I'm in the market for a new mask and am really curious about this. The thing that's been keeping me from pulling the trigger on the DFM-UMP is that all of the advertising literature for it says it's a low-profile design.

The DFM-UMP is not as flat, or low profile, as the Wilson New View. It does have some pretty worthless pads, that I recommend be swapped out. Factor that into the whole price of the rig. Be sure the check eBay for the best deal on these masks.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by kylejt

The DFM-UMP is not as flat, or low profile, as the Wilson New View. It does have some pretty worthless pads, that I recommend be swapped out. Factor that into the whole price of the rig. Be sure the check eBay for the best deal on these masks.

I agree with Kyle. The DFM-UMP is a standard profile mask - not flat at all. I don't know why they advertise it as low-profile. I am also able to wear a 6 or 8-stitch hat with it (the 8-stitch takes some practice).

I put on Team Wendy's pads ($40 from Honigs). It's as if they were made for the mask - a perfect fit.

[MD Longhorn]

Throat protector. And in case I don't mention it... throat protector. I know this from personal experience. Drilled in the neck once - WAY worse than forgetting your cup.

And if he's doing youth ball, you can wait on the steel toed shoes until you know if he's serious.

One thing I did my first season - half of all my umpiring money got set aside until i could afford whatever piece of equipment I needed next. By the end of the first season, I had solid equipment everywhere.

[Rufus]

Thanks to all who have replied. I picked up the Diamond lightweight (DFM-iX3) today at a local baseball warehouse that's close by. It's very light compared to some of the other models they had in stock (no titanium or high-end stuff so it was apples to apples in terms of cost).

If he ends up doing any plate work I will definitely tell him to invest in a throat protector as he inherited his father's long neck.

He's also running an account with us (we're purchasing and he's paying back once he starts getting game fees in) for the up-front costs. The good news is that the starter kits I've seen have been pretty comprehensive. The association he'll be calling with just let them know this past weekend they needed a mask for training this coming weekend, hence my need to get feedback quickly.

Thanks again - speaking as a coach you all have always been respectful and very helpful answering my questions, but I especially appreciate your assistance in helping my son out as he gets started officiating.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Thanks to all who have replied. I picked up the Diamond lightweight (DFM-iX3) today at a local baseball warehouse that's close by. It's very light compared to some of the other models they had in stock (no titanium or high-end stuff so it was apples to apples in terms of cost).

If he ends up doing any plate work I will definitely tell him to invest in a throat protector as he inherited his father's long neck.

He's also running an account with us (we're purchasing and he's paying back once he starts getting game fees in) for the up-front costs. The good news is that the starter kits I've seen have been pretty comprehensive. The association he'll be calling with just let them know this past weekend they needed a mask for training this coming weekend, hence my need to get feedback quickly.

Thanks again - speaking as a coach you all have always been respectful and very helpful answering my questions, but I especially appreciate your assistance in helping my son out as he gets started officiating.

We're glad to have him.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Thanks again - speaking as a coach you all have always been respectful and very helpful answering my questions, but I especially appreciate your assistance in helping my son out as he gets started officiating.

When are you going to give up the ghost and come over to the darkside? You know too much to be coaching still.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Welpe

When are you going to give up the ghost and come over to the darkside? You know too much to be coaching still.

When I no longer have any kids playing to coach of course (though I think I'll always have a soft spot for coaching catchers and continue doing that regardless)! I already referee basketball and would like to get into umpiring at some point. Simply love the game and that seems to be a natural (un-natural?) progression. Plus it would be a kick to officiate with my son at some point, assuming he stays with it.

[Welpe]

I understand. I am just yanking your chain, it is great we have good coaches in the game such as yourself.

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by kylejt

It does have some pretty worthless pads, that I recommend be swapped out. Factor that into the whole price of the rig.

Already factoring...since I know that you can buy just the frame alone on ump-attire.com.

[RPatrino]

Mike said,
"And if he's doing youth ball, you can wait on the steel toed shoes until you know if he's serious."

I had a terrific young umpire who worked Minors ball that didn't wear steel toed shoes (against my advice) who took a foul ball in the foot and broke two toes. He missed half the season and was never the same after that. He got very jumpy behind the plate and never stayed still. He eventually quit umpiring.

So, do what you feel is best, but I would never advise anyone get behind the plate without protection on their feet.