End of JEAPU?

[MrUmpire]

Over reach by MiLB. Dealing with the instructors, who also happen to be MiLB umpires, is justified; handing out the death penalty to the school is not.

Seems obvious that ulterior motives are at play, and with a contract, Jim is probably done. Harry's is next.

[UMP25]

Still, if this KKK stuff did happen, it was just plain stupid.

[MikeStrybel]

A good friend just finished The Umpire School and was asked to attend PBUC. He told me the stats from his and the other schools the morning he finished and I was floored. 14 of the 30 students were asked to PBUC Eval! I may be mistaken but I believe that PBUC Eval takes 36 candidates. If so, Wendlestedt sent 14 (from 120) and JEA would have just 8. Any one else here these numbers?

[UMP25]

Those numbers are incorrect.

[MikeStrybel]

Originally Posted by UMP25

Those numbers are incorrect.

The umpire I spoke to just finished The Umpire School. He cited 30 students and 14 who were invited to attend PBUC Evaluations. Their Facebook page quotes the same number.

The Wendlestedt School forum states that they placed 14 in PBUC Eval as well.

Please elaborate.

[UMP25]

They were incorrect when compared to the numbers indicated in the aforementioned NYT article.

[MikeStrybel]

Fine. I was told a firsthand account of The Umpire School saga. I am proud of my friend's achievement and opportunity. He told of 14 students from his class of 30 being chosen. The Wendelstedt forum features some gripes about them also getting 14 out of 120. If Jim Evans' school also produced 14 from 117, those young men are also to be congratulated.

My friend said that PBUC anticipated having 36 openings. If each school pushes 14 to eval, there will be 6 who will leave unhappy, it seems. If they have more than 36 assignments, good for them. I truly could care less about numbers. I prefer to congratulate those who succeeded and praise The Umpire School for doing, what looks like percentage wise, an incredible job.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

A good friend just finished The Umpire School and was asked to attend PBUC. He told me the stats from his and the other schools the morning he finished and I was floored. 14 of the 30 students were asked to PBUC Eval! I may be mistaken but I believe that PBUC Eval takes 36 candidates. If so, Wendlestedt sent 14 (from 120) and JEA would have just 8. Any one else here these numbers?

You and/or your friend are mistaken. Evans will also send 14. Percentages has nothing to do with it. Each school was asked for 14 regardless of size of class or past success in training. PBUC has always asked for the same number from each school. They have been careful to not show favoritism, evn though more Evans grads move on to a contract that Wendelstedt....at least in the past 12 or 13 years.


Check out which school the last five umpires promoted to MLB attended. Check out how many current MiLB umpires attended which school.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by UMP25

Still, if this KKK stuff did happen, it was just plain stupid.

Did you read the article? It's not quite what you think, and in my opinion doesn't warrant the punishment.

Given what actually happened Jim's low-key response actually makes more sense. I don't think he saw the sh*tstorm that was coming.

[UMP25]

Did you read my post? I'll repeat it:

If this KKK stuff did happen, it was just plain stupid.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by UMP25

Did you read my post? I'll repeat it:

If this KKK stuff did happen, it was just plain stupid.

Oh, so you read the story and didn't understand it. Got it. Thanks.

[UMP25]

No. Stop being such a child and assuming that which was never stated or even implied. Go back and read my original comment.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by UMP25

No. Stop being such a child and assuming that which was never stated or even implied. Go back and read my original comment.

Stop being such a child and calling names. Go back and read the story, which answers your original comment.

[cbfoulds]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Did you read the article? It's not quite what you think, and in my opinion doesn't warrant the punishment.

Given what actually happened Jim's low-key response actually makes more sense. I don't think he saw the sh*tstorm that was coming.

I read it.

I am certain that the outcome is not punishment, it's pretext: for something Professional Baseball was looking to do anyway.

I agree that Evans didn't see the sh*tstorm coming. Like I said previously, that is both clueless and sad.

Guys prancing around in [even fake-/ pseudo-/ mock-] "KKK" outfits, complete w/ pointy hats in the South [which I am a proud part of] and in front of "the lone black employee" can NEVER be "all in good fun" / "a bad joke never meant to hurt anyone". You have to have been living under one hell of a rock for the last 40 years not to get that.

[UMP25]

That's the only thin on which I had commented--the actions by the guys donning the KKK-like outfits. If they did that, it was just plain stupid. However, some genius here began childishly railing on me for things into which I didn't even delve.