Foul then fair

[cookie]

Larry 1953: "So now PU Danley completely kicks a call on a dribbler in front of the plate."

Regarding the dribbler in front of the plate that plate umpire Danley called "Foul", replay clearly indicated it to be Fair. It was a Texas batter who would have been out on that play, but instead he came back to the pate and eventually got a hit driving in a run. Tampa Bay manager Madden had come out to PU Danley about the call, but quickly accepted Danley's explanation with no argument (uncharacteristic of Madden, especially given the eventual consequences of the foul call).

Anyone have any information on what Danley might have said to Madden to have him so easily, quickly and quietly go back to the dugout?

[txump81]

Originally Posted by cookie

Anyone have any information on what Danley might have said to Madden to have him so easily, quickly and quietly go back to the dugout?

I was wondering the same thing. Kerwin kicked the call royally. I am very surprised Maddon didn't get himself tossed on that.

[Larry1953]

Cookie, I was wondering the same thing. Maybe he just said he missed the call.

[Larry1953]

"[Danley] said that it hit his bat on the back swing, which would have made it a dead ball. It just got messed up -- I don't know what was happening, but I know that he hit the ball. ... He made the call, and that's what he went with."

From MLB.com this morning

ETA
Q. Two questions. What did you see and get on the --- from the umpire on the Murphy dribbler in front of the plate?

JOE MADDON: I talked to K.D. (Kerwin Danley) because I wasn't really sure. He said the ball hit the bat again and it just dribbled out in front of the plate. I had no argument at that point because I can't tell that. You'd have to ask him specifically. He may have called it a little bit quickly, I don't know. But the ball did hit. It appeared to be behind the plate but then rolled out in front of the plate, which means it is a fair ball if it is not touched.

So I went out there rather calmly and just asked him what was going on, and he told me that the ball had hit the bat again, which means it would have been a foul ball because he hit it behind the plate and pushed it fair. That's what I thought he meant, anyway.

I accepted the explanation because I couldn't tell with the naked eye what actually happened.

[txump81]

Good recovery by KD then. When you screw up, sell it.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by cookie

Larry 1953: "So now PU Danley completely kicks a call on a dribbler in front of the plate."

Regarding the dribbler in front of the plate that plate umpire Danley called "Foul", replay clearly indicated it to be Fair. It was a Texas batter who would have been out on that play, but instead he came back to the pate and eventually got a hit driving in a run. Tampa Bay manager Madden had come out to PU Danley about the call, but quickly accepted Danley's explanation with no argument (uncharacteristic of Madden, especially given the eventual consequences of the foul call).

Anyone have any information on what Danley might have said to Madden to have him so easily, quickly and quietly go back to the dugout?

David Murphy was at bat, and didn't get a hit. He struck out swinging on a wild pitch.

It looked to me like the ball had much rotation going when it first stopped, then then the rotation of the ball caused it to move out across the plate into fair ground. I don't know if Danley saw it that way, but his explanation holds water with me if he was blocked out by the catcher, and thought he saw something else altogether.