Infield fly situation

[MikeStrybel]

You stated that the ball was in fair territory when contacted, right? The umpire correctly announced the call, the batter is out if the ball is fair. By rule, it became fair when contacted by the BR. He was out the instant he touched it, either way. Because he interfered with the potential live ball, it is dead and the runners return to their bases. Smart pitcher. One of my 11U kids this year tried to glove a similar pop up. It hit the heel of his glove while fair and rolled into DBT. Ouch.

[MD Longhorn]

Unless you have intent (and you state that you don't), I don't see any mess to clean up. Batter is out. Ball is dead. Runners back to their TOP bases. No mess at all.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Unless you have intent (and you state that you don't), I don't see any mess to clean up. Batter is out. Ball is dead. Runners back to their TOP bases. No mess at all.

So you have a fair ball leaving the field? Isn't that a 2 base award?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by mbyron

So you have a fair ball leaving the field? Isn't that a 2 base award?

When did a live fair batted ball leave the field?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

When did a live fair batted ball leave the field?

Ah, you're killing it when it's kicked? Based on....?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Ah, you're killing it when it's kicked? Based on....?

Let me ask you this... the status of the ball is nothing until it becomes something, yes? So despite the fact that we WILL have IFF if the ball stays fair, at the instant the ball hits the batter, we do not have IFF. Live batter hit by live ball in fair territory - what do YOU do?

[kylejt]

You have but two choices: Call the BR out on the IFF, because the fair ball is dead once it touches him, OR call him out for INT. You can't get two outs on the same guy, so I'd go for the later.

It's that simple.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Let me ask you this... the status of the ball is nothing until it becomes something, yes? So despite the fact that we WILL have IFF if the ball stays fair, at the instant the ball hits the batter, we do not have IFF. Live batter hit by live ball in fair territory - what do YOU do?

Relax, Mike, I'm just playing.

What's weird about the case is that the BR is not out until the ball is fair (IFF), but it's not fair until he's out (INT).

To put it otherwise: the ball touching him both makes it fair and makes him guilty of INT.

I like INT.

[DG]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

You stated that the ball was in fair territory when contacted, right? The umpire correctly announced the call, the batter is out if the ball is fair. By rule, it became fair when contacted by the BR. He was out the instant he touched it, either way. Because he interfered with the potential live ball, it is dead and the runners return to their bases. Smart pitcher. One of my 11U kids this year tried to glove a similar pop up. It hit the heel of his glove while fair and rolled into DBT. Ouch.

Why is this smart pitcher? If it rolls foul without being touched it is foul, vs. catch it for an out, or at least touch it in fair territory. Catch it is best option.