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Old Sat Sep 10, 2011, 05:59pm
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It's not an NCAA rule, but it is an official guideline.
No, that is not true. According to the definition in rule 2-18, a half swing shall be called a strike if the barrel head of the bat passes the batter's front hip. Previously the rule stated "the front edge of home plate" but that neglected the batter's position in the box.

The words in blue are verbatim from the 2011 NCAA Baseball Preseason supplement, and it can also be found in the current rule book. This rule definition was discussed at the annual meetings.

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Old Sat Sep 10, 2011, 06:01pm
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What he advocates is a recent rule at NCAA, and a good rule of thumb anywhere else. Kind of wish the other rulesets would codify it as such as well. Kind of silly that the other rulesets (older and younger, both) have not written an official rule to define such a crucial situation.
I am not advocating anything. I simply posted the notice issued by the NCAA.

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Old Sat Sep 10, 2011, 06:17pm
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Wow, what a jerk. You read into his post something he didn't say or imply ... and then tell him that if he thinks what he didn't say he thought, he should hang em up. What is your problem?

What was the purpose of the OP? Just to inform us, or to announce something to us that you disagree with ... that is not clear.
Try decaf, Junior. As explained earlier, I replied to the tone received. Okayyyyyy?!?!? So what's the problem with that?

I merely posted the new mechanic that the NCAA wants implemented. They were word for word from Tom Hiler, through Rich Fetcheit. I suggest that those two men know far more about what is apparopriate for umpiring than any here, myself included. They chose to urgently broadcast it two days ago. I simply posted it for others who hadn't read the change yet. If you have long practiced this mechanic, good for you. Call the NCAA and see of they need help with the 2013 changes.

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FWIW Mike, you seem to have read Ozzy's remarks differently that I read them.
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Old Sat Sep 10, 2011, 11:20pm
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FWIW Mike, you seem to have read Ozzy's remarks differently that I read them.
Maybe that wouldn't have been the case if Ozzy didn't go off like a half cocked gun most of the time.
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Maybe that wouldn't have been the case if Ozzy didn't go off like a half cocked gun most of the time.
There are a lot of people that go over the top here. Nothing new or unusual.

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Old Sun Sep 11, 2011, 06:44am
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Maybe that wouldn't have been the case if Ozzy didn't go off like a half cocked gun most of the time.
Yeah, it's hell when your reputation preceeds you.
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Old Sun Sep 11, 2011, 06:49am
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FWIW Mike, you seem to have read Ozzy's remarks differently that I read them.
Bob, if you ask me a question here do you use multiple question marks and exclamation points after elongating the last consonant of the query?

I simply posted the latest NCAA mechanics change. It was met with "Okayyyyyy?!?!? So what's the problem with that?" from Ozzy. If anyone misread something, it was he. I have no issue with the mechanic.
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Old Sun Sep 11, 2011, 06:50am
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Maybe that wouldn't have been the case if Ozzy didn't go off like a half cocked gun most of the time.
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So does that also mean that U3 has the option now of position C or B with a runner on 1st base with or without a LH batter at the plate? I believe it is mandatory for U3 to be in the C position when a left-handed batter is at the plate for a possible check swing appeal by U3...
well that was a change last year... it was in the CCA
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Old Sun Sep 11, 2011, 01:07pm
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It's not an NCAA rule, but it is an official guideline.
actually it is a rule....LOL

NCAA rule 2011-2012
2-38
Half Swing
SECTION 38. An attempt by the batter to stop the forward motion of the bat
while swinging, which puts the batter in jeopardy of a strike being called. The
half swing shall be called a strike if the barrel head of the bat passes the batter’s
front hip.
A.R.—This does not apply to a bunt attempt when the batter pulls the bat back
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Old Sun Sep 11, 2011, 01:09pm
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Became a written rule and standard last year. Rule 2 Section 38/Half swing.
Last sentence : The half swing shall be called a strike if the barrel head of the bat passes the batters front hip. (does not apply to a bunt )
this rule has been in place for over 7 years... but it also included if the barrel past the front edge of the plate as well.
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Old Sun Sep 11, 2011, 06:47pm
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Bob, if you ask me a question here do you use multiple question marks and exclamation points after elongating the last consonant of the query?

I simply posted the latest NCAA mechanics change. It was met with "Okayyyyyy?!?!? So what's the problem with that?" from Ozzy. If anyone misread something, it was he. I have no issue with the mechanic.
I don't know, do I?!?!?

In any event, this has gone on long enough. Thanks for posting the change.
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