Baseball question from a football/basketball ref.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by kylejt

HS Varsity, JC and D1.

You'll see coaches just rail at officials from either four feet away, or across the court.

I work a lot of games and I watch more games and many in person. Sorry, I see nothing different from a basketball point of view that I do not see in baseball as it relates to complaining. More coaches in baseball are yelling from 100 feet away than I ever get in basketball games. And if they are yelling from far away, it usually is addressed. Just because they are not throwing them out (which is your baseball mentality to handed the situation and you admitted to) does not mean they are not handing the situation in another way. Basketball officials do not need to throw people out to accomplish what they want.

Originally Posted by kylejt

It's not an ego thing, just common courtesy. The level of #@$ taken in other sports is far beyond that of what we deem acceptable on the diamond. I mean, we dump on the first blathering of "...YOU....", whereas other officials just act like they don't even hear it. I just find it odd.

And which is why I said that mentality often does not survive in other sports. Because to me it is a cop out to always eject someone. If you cannot think of something to say or to take over the discussion, then that says a lot. Even in baseball I know how to control the discussion with a coach and get them to do what I want without ejecting them. Also most baseball discussions take place with play stopped. Basketball play is going on continuously. Again, different sport different expectations.

Originally Posted by kylejt

Maybe it's a baseball thing, and we've got it all wrong. You see far more ejections in baseball than all other sports. So why is that?

Yes and baseball umpires are seen to be the cause of many of those situations than in other sports. Not to say basketball does not have some "confrontational" people from a public perception standpoint. But if you listen to the "public" and many ejections that take place, it is seen as the umpire overreacted. At least many confrontations with basketball officials are often seen as justified or not a shock when players or coaches are penalized.

Peace