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Old Sun Jul 31, 2011, 09:01pm
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Pujols' homer forces ground rules change at Busch Stadium - MLB - Sporting News

It took less than a week to come into play. 7/31 - Freese hits an identical shot to RCF. It was ruled in play. Review took less than a minute. Valentine et al remembered the Pujols HR but they still thought the ground rule at Busch was that ball hitting concrete rim was a HR.
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Old Mon Aug 01, 2011, 12:22am
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Pujols' homer forces ground rules change at Busch Stadium - MLB - Sporting News

It took less than a week to come into play. 7/31 - Freese hits an identical shot to RCF. It was ruled in play. Review took less than a minute. Valentine et al remembered the Pujols HR but they still thought the ground rule at Busch was that ball hitting concrete rim was a HR.
Uh no, it (Freese's hit) hit the top of the pad. So it would have been in play regardless...
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Old Mon Aug 01, 2011, 06:32pm
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Uh no, it (Freese's hit) hit the top of the pad. So it would have been in play regardless...
From the game report:

The ball appeared to hit the concrete wall behind the outfield fence and bounced back into play, prompting crew chief Derryl Cousins to opt for a second look.

There was a similar play during Tuesday's game against Houston, when Albert Pujols' home run was reviewed after it bounced off the concrete in left-center. That homer stood, but on Sunday, the call did not go the home team's way.

"The explanation is there's a piece of the wall that's not covered by the mat and we've just got to solve that because if it's hitting the concrete and coming back, that's still part of the fence," La Russa said. "We've just got to make sure we get all of that fence covered with the mat and put an end to that."
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Old Mon Aug 01, 2011, 07:28pm
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The ball appeared to hit the concrete wall behind the outfield fence and bounced back into play, prompting crew chief Derryl Cousins to opt for a second look.

There was a similar play during Tuesday's game against Houston, when Albert Pujols' home run was reviewed after it bounced off the concrete in left-center. That homer stood, but on Sunday, the call did not go the home team's way.

"The explanation is there's a piece of the wall that's not covered by the mat and we've just got to solve that because if it's hitting the concrete and coming back, that's still part of the fence," La Russa said. "We've just got to make sure we get all of that fence covered with the mat and put an end to that."
Whatever the game report said, I was watching this when it happened last night and ESPN froze the shot when the ball hit the wall. It clearly it the padding and not any part of the concrete behind the wall.
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Old Mon Aug 01, 2011, 07:40pm
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Whatever the game report said, I was watching this when it happened last night and ESPN froze the shot when the ball hit the wall. It clearly it the padding and not any part of the concrete behind the wall.
At Busch, the outfield wall is concrete covered with padding. There is no gap. For some reason they left a rim uncovered. As TLR pointed out, that is leading to confusion and he says they should fix it by covering the rim up. That sounds like a good plan.
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Old Mon Aug 01, 2011, 08:09pm
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At Busch, the outfield wall is concrete covered with padding. There is no gap. For some reason they left a rim uncovered. As TLR pointed out, that is leading to confusion and he says they should fix it by covering the rim up. That sounds like a good plan.
The concrete and the padding are level. The ball can hit the concrete and not hit the padding and vice versa.
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