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Old Wed Jan 04, 2006, 09:44pm
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It should have been reviewed and probably overturned. That was huge! Ball on 8 yard line, or TD.
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Old Wed Jan 04, 2006, 09:57pm
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Ah, who knows? I thought the ball was also passed forward but couldn't tell 100% for sure with the one angle they showed on replay. Did you notice whether it was or not? Not that it matters because it would have been a dead ball as you stated.
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Old Wed Jan 04, 2006, 10:05pm
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Could any of you NCAA boys tell us when the replay officials are required to buzz the on field officials. What else do they need to see to stop the game? The earlier post about Texas' knee was down was obvious, then later a very close non-interception by Texas. Thanks.
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Old Wed Jan 04, 2006, 10:16pm
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I agree, replay, no TD, knee was down.

How close was that to being a illegal forward pass by Young?

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Old Wed Jan 04, 2006, 10:40pm
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Not nearly as illegal as the one Bush threw.

Problem is when these "backwards" passes occur in the middle of a long run, it's almost impossible for an offiical to be in position to make that call.
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Old Wed Jan 04, 2006, 10:44pm
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Pretty sure it was a forward pass but if he was down, then its not a foul. What a sticky wicket
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Old Wed Jan 04, 2006, 11:25pm
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My initial reaction at full speed was that the pass was slightly forward. Of course, at full speed I did not see the knee down either.

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Old Wed Jan 04, 2006, 11:43pm
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I don't like the review system, they need to change it to coach's challenge so this problem is solved. JMO.
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Old Wed Jan 04, 2006, 11:43pm
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According to KJ, they were having equipment problems.

That's why there shouldn't be replay. Its going to miss as many as it corrects, one way or another.
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Old Thu Jan 05, 2006, 12:41am
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I was telling a person I was watching it with that if there were less officials they may actually have got it. the HL had to stop around the 8, he was focused on the runner (angle was blocked by lineman), LJ was on the Goal line mainly focusing on it and got straightlined. If there was only one ref on the side he may have been more upfield and had a better angle. Thats funny! thing about coach's challenge, USC could have easily called a TO and it would have let them review it (they sure didn't use them well in the game anyway!)
Well, I had no vested interest in the game and saw a great great game, one for the ages!

PS I like that they finnally showed a call under review at real speed (that would help out a lot for some of the announcers) "Wow, when you slow it down it looks like he has it longer than he did real speed" lol
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Old Thu Jan 05, 2006, 01:25am
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We were all laughing at a dinner party I held and we missed the live play. Seeing the knee down in slo-mo, I gasped why it wasn't reviewed. I hope this play helps bring in coach's challenges to the NCAA.
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Old Thu Jan 05, 2006, 08:26am
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We were all laughing at a dinner party I held and we missed the live play. Seeing the knee down in slo-mo, I gasped why it wasn't reviewed. I hope this play helps bring in coach's challenges to the NCAA.
was the dinner party in the replay booth? That was mean and not typical of me but I had to, bad day.

I agree, coaches challenge would be better and I am sure NCAA will do this.
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Texas did a good job (as an official, I hate that this is a strategy now... but it is what it is) hurrying up and kicking the PAT. I think their hurrying A) gave us the TD we might not have deserved and B) caused this missed PAT which may have been a problem later.

Think Mack's going to go recruit a decent kicker now?
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Old Thu Jan 05, 2006, 09:04am
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On the Bush lateral/fumble in the first half...could that have been reviewed to determine if it was a backward pass (as ruled) or an illegal forward pass? If it was an IFP, ball would be dead once incomplete, and USC would have kept the ball upon penalty enforcement.
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Old Thu Jan 05, 2006, 09:39am
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REPLY: If anyone has the tape, look at the Bush backward pass/fumble again. I believe that as he was letting the ball go it 'ticked' off of a Texas player's helmet and moved ever so slightly forward as a result.
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