Pujols HR reviewed

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by cbfoulds

IN MOST CASES [read: most ball parks, esp. pro fields], if a fly ball clears a CF boundary obstacle [fence, wall, etc.] and returns to the field of play somehow, there is gonna be a "ground rule" [i.e.: a pre-determined ruling specific to that field and that obstacle] which covers it: hence the term "ground Rule double".

There's no ground rule in any enclosed field that would supersede the rule book: Four bases in flight; two bases on the bounce.

I believe Larry (I may regret defending him) was commenting whether Busch Stadium's ground rules state where the home run line is for the outfield walls. In this hit, the ball either bounced off the top of the padded wall or it hit the cement wall behind the padded wall; after doing one of the two, it came back toward the outfield. Ground rules would determine which wall it had to clear. If it didn't clear the correct wall, it would be an alive ball, with runners getting what they can.

Originally Posted by cbfoulds

apparently, the commentator YOU CITED seemed to think this was such a sitch: if the ball was NOT a HR, it would be a GR double.

You don't know Mike Shannon, do you? Here's a sample.

[Larry1953]

The commentator I referred to was Jim Deshaies who works with Bill Brown on Houston TV.

MLB said that from now on, the ball has to clear the small concrete strip that the padding does not cover. Hard to say why it would ever have been deemed otherwise. If the same ball was hit today, it would be IN PLAY, as it should have been in the first place.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by Larry1953

The commentator I referred to was Jim Deshaies who works with Bill Brown on Houston TV.

Originally Posted by Larry1953

Cards announcer Mike Shannon reviewed the replay and immediately said it just hit the top of the wall and on review "it will probably end up a ground rule double with the runner who was sure to score being sent back to third.

Which was it?

[Larry1953]

Originally Posted by yawetag

Which was it?

It was Deshaies who said that it was better to let the ball stay in play, knowing that if replay shows it was a HR, it is an easy matter just to send all runners home.