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Old Sun Jun 19, 2011, 07:16pm
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The slightest contact such as the brushing of a jersey sleeve will cause the umps to proudly call obstruction and award the run.
Reference, please.

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I thought the rule was the same for Little League.
While I don't do LL, I beleive this part of the rule to be the same. That doesn't mean your play was OBS.
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Old Sun Jun 19, 2011, 07:36pm
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Reference, please.



While I don't do LL, I beleive this part of the rule to be the same. That doesn't mean your play was OBS.
Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | LAD@SD: Cabrera is awarded home on interference call - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

I can't see the video via my iPhone but the description on another web-board makes it kind of sound like the play I described except for the leg-lock by the fielder.

As for the "brushing" reference you asked for, I haven't found it just yet. But within the past two weeks I saw a MLB game where the runner got in a rundown between third and home. Going back to third, the runner diverted his path about a foot toward the infield so as to brush against the pitcher who happened to be there. It was high-fives in the dugout all around for the savvy runner and the announcers described how the runner did exactly as he was taught. I'm pretty sure it was a FOX national game.
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Old Sun Jun 19, 2011, 07:57pm
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St. Louis Cardinals vs. Colorado Rockies - May 28, 2011 - Box Score - MLB - Sporting News

It was the May 28 game St Louis at Rockies. If you have MLB.tv there is not a specific highlight, but you can see it at about 7:20 in the condensed game format. It is pretty much exactly as I described. The amount of contact would not have awakened a sleeping baby.
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Old Sun Jun 19, 2011, 08:31pm
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It is at 2:23 in the full game version with Helton batting in the bottom of the 4th if you want to FOX broadcast version
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Old Mon Jun 20, 2011, 07:43am
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It is at 2:23 in the full game version with Helton batting in the bottom of the 4th if you want to FOX broadcast version
No, I don't. Thanks, though.

A couple of points:

1) "A brushing of the sleeve" is not sufficient to (correctly) call OBS. So, either there was other OBS (before or after the "contact"), or the umpires missed it.

2) Even the MLB umps miss them -- that's why is dangerous to take any (well, every) ruling as precedent

3) You don't need to reference "interesting articles I found on the web" to most who post here. Heck, we've probably written some of them (or ones similar to them).

4) It's bad form to reply to yourself, or to have multiple posts in a row.

5) The game was 15 years ago? Lah me. Maybe the umpire kicked it. Maybe he used the wrong term. But, guess what? He's likely learning, too -- especially in a 10-12 year old game.
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Old Mon Jun 20, 2011, 07:59am
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15 years ago? Get over it.

You seem obsessed with reviewing MLB plays, creating your own (usually wrong) interpretation and then trying to apply that wrong interp into a 15-year old LL game that uses a different rule-set anyway.

Quoting a "youth league" website. Ugh. Really?

We're more than willing to discuss real interpretations of real rules here with people who actually want to learn. We become less interested when non-umpire comes here just to argue and is armed with a boatload of nonsense to support his side.
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Old Mon Jun 20, 2011, 08:24am
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15 YEARS AGO?

In 15 years you have spent time researching some MLB video(which clearly showed a leg-lock) that was the cause for obstruction, and haven't taken the time to properly understand the difference between obstruction, malicious contact, interference or just incidental contact. And now you come on here and ask for help.

Your definetly on the wrong Forum Larry. This is not the Psychiatric Forum where you can discuss 15 year hangups.
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