fubar on dropped third strike

[jicecone]

I am PU. R1, 1 out. Ground ball fielded and play is made for force out at second, FPSL. I come out to observe play at second and then afterwards turn to first and watch runner pass first and F3 has possesion of ball. BU called safe. Beats the hell out of me.

Def coach comes out and my partner comes to me for help with play at first. I tell him I have nothing. He says I didn't see it either???? I tell him "well stick with your call then."

Guess who has to toss Offensive coach because someone changed their call.

Sometimes you just have to umpire and sometimes you just have to shutup and stick with your mistake.

[DG]

Originally Posted by jicecone

I am PU. R1, 1 out. Ground ball fielded and play is made for force out at second, FPSL. I come out to observe play at second and then afterwards turn to first and watch runner pass first and F3 has possesion of ball. BU called safe. Beats the hell out of me.

Def coach comes out and my partner comes to me for help with play at first. I tell him I have nothing. He says I didn't see it either???? I tell him "well stick with your call then."

Guess who has to toss Offensive coach because someone changed their call.

Sometimes you just have to umpire and sometimes you just have to shutup and stick with your mistake.

You in the wrong post, but I play along. FPSR implies that something illegal happened. If you are PU you should have the call since BU is turning for play at 1B after calling R1 out on the force. Pick a hand to point with but I generally point at the violation with left with conviction and turn to BR and give the out call towards him. Why you see nothing if you think you saw a FPSR violation? Why you mention it if not? You say BR pass first and F3 has the ball. Did he have the ball when BR touched first or not. He has it as runner is past first but did he have it before, you are not clear on point.

If partner asks for help give him what you have, not don't say I did not see it, but if you are watching 2b for potential FPSR violation, you very well may not see it, since not your job.

You say stick with the call but offensive coach was EJ because the call was changed. I just so confused. Did he change the call after neither of you admitted to seeing it. I just so confused.

[jicecone]

DG my point was, sometimes when you make a mistake, just suck it up and stay with your call. My partner should have and so should have the two officials in this thread.

Maybe my input was not clear however, there was no violation at second and I did my job in observing the play at second. By the time I turned toward first the play was over. When he asked for help that is what I told him and only him, also that I did not see the play at first. He then changed his call and I had to clean up the mess.

[DG]

Originally Posted by jicecone

DG my point was, sometimes when you make a mistake, just suck it up and stay with your call. My partner should have and so should have the two officials in this thread.

Maybe my input was not clear however, there was no violation at second and I did my job in observing the play at second. By the time I turned toward first the play was over. When he asked for help that is what I told him and only him, also that I did not see the play at first. He then changed his call and I had to clean up the mess.

He admitted he did not see an out, but changed a safe call to out and then dumped OFF coach. I wonder why.