That wasn't the third out

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Matt

MSHSL only requires it at the varsity level, and only quasi-sanctions sub-varsity games.

Too bad. All games at the 9th grade level and up are covered by the WIAA.

Of course, I haven't taken a subvarsity game in 6 years (I did fill in on one last week as part of a V/JV DH and was reminded after 2:20 and five innings why I don't work JV games). Main reason is there are so many makeups that if I took a JV game, I know I'd get 10 calls to go work a big school varsity game makeup and then I'd be faced with the dilemma of whether I take the varsity game and find a sub for the JV game or simply turn down the varsity game. I came to the conclusion I'd rather leave my schedule open and run the risk of enjoying an off day.

I guess some people enjoy umpiring enough to work by themselves, but I'm serious in that I would give it up before I would work by myself. I don't love it that much and it's not like I do this for the money.

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I guess some people enjoy umpiring enough to work by themselves, but I'm serious in that I would give it up before I would work by myself. I don't love it that much and it's not like I do this for the money.

Which charity do you give your game fees? Or do you not take pay at all? Better for taxes that way I presume.

[Adam]

That's not what he said. I'll paraphrase Rich from another thread a long time ago: "I don't do this for the money, but I wouldn't do it for free, either."

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That's not what he said. I'll paraphrase Rich from another thread a long time ago: "I don't do this for the money, but I wouldn't do it for free, either."

I see that someone I've ignored has referenced me. I'm sure it has to do with my saying "I don't do it for the money." Oh, OK, I'll look, but only so I'm not off-base in my reply. Yup, OK.

Well, I don't. A $60 game fee, after vehicle/fuel costs and my $30 meal and beers after a game doesn't exactly leave me with a lot of money. The only thing a game fee does is help me get close enough (on either direction) to breaking even.

My free baseball is the baseball I work and the time I spend teaching clinics and doing other things for Little League. Of course, none of the coaches and local administrators are getting paid to do that, either.

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I see that someone I've ignored has referenced me. I'm sure it has to do with my saying "I don't do it for the money." Oh, OK, I'll look, but only so I'm not off-base in my reply. Yup, OK.

Well, I don't. A $60 game fee, after vehicle/fuel costs and my $30 meal and beers after a game doesn't exactly leave me with a lot of money. The only thing a game fee does is help me get close enough (on either direction) to breaking even.

So working for game fees - which like any income is spent on cars, food and booze - is working for free? Gimme a break. $30 for a meal. Every meal? Where do you eat La Frenchattoria.

[APG]

I don't get your objection STB to what Rich said, but then again a lot of people here, most of the time, don't get what you're saying.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I don't get your objection STB to what Rich said, but then again a lot of people here, most of the time, don't get what you're saying.

Yep. Most others seem to understand it.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I don't get your objection STB to what Rich said, but then again a lot of people here, most of the time, don't get what you're saying.

It's typical troll behavior. Latch onto a portion of a post, take it out of context and make ridiculous statements.

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I don't get your objection STB to what Rich said...

Let me be clear then.

I hear all the time about umpires who give their services for the "love of the game" and/or they attempt to rationalize taking game fees as a "wash" where the income = expense. It's a load of garbage and when taken to the task on how it is that expenses=income, you get ridiculous comments such as Fronheiser's $30 dinner and booze intake being the expenses that wash the income.

Be real. If you want to use umpiring as a charitable act, fine, don't take the fees, eat a homemade sandwich and drink bottled water. Hell, you still have a net loss you can write off against your taxable income.

Note btw that no one on this forum has stepped up to say "Hey, I do it for the income and I enjoy doing it as well". At least that's the truth, it's honest and it is forthright.

Questions?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I see that someone I've ignored has referenced me. I'm sure it has to do with my saying "I don't do it for the money." Oh, OK, I'll look, but only so I'm not off-base in my reply. Yup, OK.

Well, I don't. A $60 game fee, after vehicle/fuel costs and my $30 meal and beers after a game doesn't exactly leave me with a lot of money. The only thing a game fee does is help me get close enough (on either direction) to breaking even.

My free baseball is the baseball I work and the time I spend teaching clinics and doing other things for Little League. Of course, none of the coaches and local administrators are getting paid to do that, either.

I refrained from quoting him on purpose. Your welcome.