That wasn't the third out

[Matt]

Originally Posted by dileonardoja

How do they expect to develop Varsity umpires? The tried to do that here but the Associations balked.

In general, during the summer.

Spring ball here is abbreviated and prone to weather. When every team (and I mean EVERY team) in the state is playing on the same days due to rainouts/snowouts, there aren't enough umpires to put two on sub-varsity games, and even if there were, I don't see schools paying for it.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Matt

In general, during the summer.

Spring ball here is abbreviated and prone to weather. When every team (and I mean EVERY team) in the state is playing on the same days due to rainouts/snowouts, there aren't enough umpires to put two on sub-varsity games, and even if there were, I don't see schools paying for it.

Amazing. We have a lot of weather in Wisconsin, and no school game can be played here (by the state association rules) with one umpire. The schools have no choice.

In a place where we go out and build our own schedules anyway, I guarantee even if the state got rid of this rule, I wouldn't be accepting games where I worked by myself.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Amazing. We have a lot of weather in Wisconsin, and no school game can be played here (by the state association rules) with one umpire. The schools have no choice.

MSHSL only requires it at the varsity level, and only quasi-sanctions sub-varsity games.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Matt

MSHSL only requires it at the varsity level, and only quasi-sanctions sub-varsity games.

Too bad. All games at the 9th grade level and up are covered by the WIAA.

Of course, I haven't taken a subvarsity game in 6 years (I did fill in on one last week as part of a V/JV DH and was reminded after 2:20 and five innings why I don't work JV games). Main reason is there are so many makeups that if I took a JV game, I know I'd get 10 calls to go work a big school varsity game makeup and then I'd be faced with the dilemma of whether I take the varsity game and find a sub for the JV game or simply turn down the varsity game. I came to the conclusion I'd rather leave my schedule open and run the risk of enjoying an off day.

I guess some people enjoy umpiring enough to work by themselves, but I'm serious in that I would give it up before I would work by myself. I don't love it that much and it's not like I do this for the money.

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I guess some people enjoy umpiring enough to work by themselves, but I'm serious in that I would give it up before I would work by myself. I don't love it that much and it's not like I do this for the money.

Which charity do you give your game fees? Or do you not take pay at all? Better for taxes that way I presume.

[Adam]

That's not what he said. I'll paraphrase Rich from another thread a long time ago: "I don't do this for the money, but I wouldn't do it for free, either."

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That's not what he said. I'll paraphrase Rich from another thread a long time ago: "I don't do this for the money, but I wouldn't do it for free, either."

I see that someone I've ignored has referenced me. I'm sure it has to do with my saying "I don't do it for the money." Oh, OK, I'll look, but only so I'm not off-base in my reply. Yup, OK.

Well, I don't. A $60 game fee, after vehicle/fuel costs and my $30 meal and beers after a game doesn't exactly leave me with a lot of money. The only thing a game fee does is help me get close enough (on either direction) to breaking even.

My free baseball is the baseball I work and the time I spend teaching clinics and doing other things for Little League. Of course, none of the coaches and local administrators are getting paid to do that, either.

[Chris Viverito]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Amazing. We have a lot of weather in Wisconsin, and no school game can be played here (by the state association rules) with one umpire. The schools have no choice.

That's very interesting to me. What is the going rate up there for a 2 man crew?