Coverage Question

[Spence]

Disclaimer: Not an umpire. Not a coach. Wasn't at this game. Just trying to answer a question for someone that was.

R1 1 out.

Groundball. Force out at 2nd. Throw to first.

2 man crew.

1. Is the field ump responsible for determining the outs at both 2nd and 1st?
2. If so, is the FU also responsible for determining if the FPSR was violated?

In this game there was contact between R1 and F6 at the base and the question came up as to who has responsibility for that on this type of play.

Thanks

[UmpJM]

Spence,

1. Yes. The Base Ump is responsible for both the call at 2B and the call at 1B.

2. You might get two different answers on this one. I believe that the BU is responsible for a possible FPSR violation at 2B UNTIL the pivot man releases the throw. Once the throw is released, the PU is responsible for the FPSR violation.

Others might suggest that the PU has primary responsibility for the FPSR violation throughout the play.

JM

[Rich]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Spence,

1. Yes. The Base Ump is responsible for both the call at 2B and the call at 1B.

2. You might get two different answers on this one. I believe that the BU is responsible for a possible FPSR violation at 2B UNTIL the pivot man releases the throw. Once the throw is released, the PU is responsible for the FPSR violation.

Others might suggest that the PU has primary responsibility for the FPSR violation throughout the play.

JM

Nothing to add but a "me too."

Personally, I'll go with JM's first answer. The BU has primary on it until the throw is released, but as the PU, I'm watching the entire play at second to make sure something doesn't happen just as the BU turns to take the call at first.

[jophyal]

I agree with both. I, as PU will watch the entire evnt at second on my way up to third.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by jophyal

I agree with both. I, as PU will watch the entire evnt at second on my way up to third.

Why are you going to third?

R1 only, ball never leaves the infield, you do not have coverage at third.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Spence,

1. Yes. The Base Ump is responsible for both the call at 2B and the call at 1B.

2. You might get two different answers on this one. I believe that the BU is responsible for a possible FPSR violation at 2B UNTIL the pivot man releases the throw. Once the throw is released, the PU is responsible for the FPSR violation.

Others might suggest that the PU has primary responsibility for the FPSR violation throughout the play.

JM

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Nothing to add but a "me too."

Personally, I'll go with JM's first answer. The BU has primary on it until the throw is released, but as the PU, I'm watching the entire play at second to make sure something doesn't happen just as the BU turns to take the call at first.

Agree.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Why are you going to third?

R1 only, ball never leaves the infield, you do not have coverage at third.

R1 only, infield batted ball, Single A Minor Leagues now have PU head up in case of "snow-ball fight". (bad throws). PU would take play at third.