Thoughts on this situation. (video)

[Illini_Ref]

First, what do you think of the call? Second, what do you think about the 2 ejections?

[MrUmpire]

Wrong position for PU to make the call.

Regarding ejections...I couldn't hear what the coaches had to say.

[Illini_Ref]

Looks like the player must have said a magic word. The assistant coach sounds like he says "That's G*DD*MNED ridiculous".

My thought is who would eject after the game has ended and for what? I understand that you can do so in FED while in still in the "vicinity" of the playing field.

I don't necessarily think that he was in a bad position. He had the ball in the OF, and retreated to a good spot IMO. I know that the book may want him on the third base line extended, but I think he had a great angle where he was since the runner was between he and the catcher.

[MrUmpire]

The plate umpire was a step or two on the third base side of 1st BLX. The runners body blocked his view of the plate. He should have taken the play at 3rd BLX, and would have if he let the developing play dictate his position.

[bossman72]

The angle the camera had was the positioning the PU should have had. CLOSE, but I had him safe.

Illini - Post game ejections are a great tool for us. Why should an act that would have been an ejection 1 pitch earlier not be an ejection after the 3rd out?
If your state doesn't suspend 1 game for an ejection, then yes it would be pointless.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Illini_Ref

Looks like the player must have said a magic word. The assistant coach sounds like he says "That's G*DD*MNED ridiculous".

My thought is who would eject after the game has ended and for what? I understand that you can do so in FED while in still in the "vicinity" of the playing field.

I don't necessarily think that he was in a bad position. He had the ball in the OF, and retreated to a good spot IMO. I know that the book may want him on the third base line extended, but I think he had a great angle where he was since the runner was between he and the catcher.

OK, the umpire took the play at the wrong place and the runner was safe. Let's look beyond that.

It's the last play of the game. I'm calling a runner out and walking out of the park. I'm not sticking around to see what they think of my call. I know what the offense thinks (regardless of whether it's correct) and I know what the defense thinks. I won't avoid a post-game ejection, but they'll be yelling at my back.

[Illini_Ref]

Rich, I totally agree, but the coach jawed at the umpire as he was passing him. The umpire appeared to linger to wait on his partner, as he should.

I also think that we sometimes HAVE to act, regardless of WHEN. A coach would not allow his kids to say the same thing to him when they disagree, so he shouldn't expect to get away with it either.

For the record, this is not me, or a game I was at. I saw it on another board and thought it was good for discussion here.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Illini_Ref

Rich, I totally agree, but the coach jawed at the umpire as he was passing him. The umpire appeared to linger to wait on his partner, as he should.

I also think that we sometimes HAVE to act, regardless of WHEN. A coach would not allow his kids to say the same thing to him when they disagree, so he shouldn't expect to get away with it either.

For the record, this is not me, or a game I was at. I saw it on another board and thought it was good for discussion here.

Depends on what's said. I'd expect some jawing that normally, during the game, I'd have to stop. After the game's over, I'll give them a bit more rope because I'm heading for the car.

In this case, I have no idea what was said. The base umpire should've been quicker leaving the field, too.

[David B]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

OK, the umpire took the play at the wrong place and the runner was safe. Let's look beyond that.

It's the last play of the game. I'm calling a runner out and walking out of the park. I'm not sticking around to see what they think of my call. I know what the offense thinks (regardless of whether it's correct) and I know what the defense thinks. I won't avoid a post-game ejection, but they'll be yelling at my back.

Well said. PU had no reason to stick around for anything. Game is over, get out of dodge. If runner, player or coach want to mouth off, I'm not within earshot.

This PU stayed around way too long.

Also I thought he was actually safe, as the tag was late, but that's umpires judgement, so he's entitled to his opinion.

thanks
David