batting out of order

[ump50]

Following a home run by B2,S1 enters the batters box and does not report
His coach had wanted him to pinch hit for B4.Prior to the ball being made live.
the defense recognizes the situation and states that B3,who has left and
re-entered the game previously is now out of game
A. True,S1 has replaced B3
B. False, the ball had not yet been legally made live

I am confused if the ball has to be put to play or not to accept this play

[mbyron]

Why is your thread titled "Batting out of order" if you have a substitution question?

Your question is easily answered by the last clause of (NFHS) 3-1-1.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ump50

I am confused if the ball has to be put to play or not to accept this play

that's exactly what the FED is testing with this question. When does an "unreported substitute" become official?

[ump50]

So I guess the answer is A. because the ball is live when the batter takes his place in the batters box 3-1-d

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by ump50

So I guess the answer is A. because the ball is live when the batter takes his place in the batters box 3-1-d

No, the ball must be live and the battermust take his place in the batters box. In the question the specifically say, "prior to the ball being made live".

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by ump50

So I guess the answer is A. because the ball is live when the batter takes his place in the batters box 3-1-d

It followed a home run - dead ball. It's not in play until put in play.

[ump50]

Thank you

[ManInBlue]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

It followed a home run - dead ball. It's not in play until put in play.

That's why you should make a habit of putting the ball back in play. They can argue all they want to. If you didn't say "play" it ain't in play. If you don't do it all the time, well...you just gave yourself a lengthy rope.

I have to admit that I'm a little slack with no runners on base. But I do it everytime with runners on. Ok, 95% of the time.

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by ManInBlue

That's why you should make a habit of putting the ball back in play. They can argue all they want to. If you didn't say "play" it ain't in play. If you don't do it all the time, well...you just gave yourself a lengthy rope.

I have to admit that I'm a little slack with no runners on base. But I do it everytime with runners on. Ok, 95% of the time.

Simple solution. Tell the F2s that the ball cannot be pitched until you signal "Play". They will remind you when your mind drifts.

The beauty of age...

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by ManInBlue

That's why you should make a habit of putting the ball back in play. They can argue all they want to. If you didn't say "play" it ain't in play. If you don't do it all the time, well...you just gave yourself a lengthy rope.

I have to admit that I'm a little slack with no runners on base. But I do it everytime with runners on. Ok, 95% of the time.

+1

I put the ball in play every time. With no runners, I'll just point. With runners, I point and verbalize.

Doing something every time reminds me to verbalize with runners.

[UmpTTS43]

What does putting the ball in play have to do with anything? When S1 entered the batter's box, doesn't matter whether the ball is live or dead, he is now officially in the game.

[UmpJM]

UMPTT,

The OP was a FED test question.

In FED it matters. Under FED rules, an unannounced sub only becomes "official" when he "takes his position" AND the ball is live.

JM

[UmpTTS43]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

UMPTT,

The OP was a FED test question.

In FED it matters. Under FED rules, an unannounced sub only becomes "official" when he "takes his position" AND the ball is live.

JM

You are correct. I better get FEDed up before the season. I think I did get the question correct on the test, go figure.